Agave ×'Baccarat'

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Agave ×'Baccarat'

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Agave ×'Baccarat' = A. gentryi × A. montana
A. 'Baccarat'
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".

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Agave ×'Baccarat'
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recent acquisition at local so Cal nursery
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^ Those really look a lot like A. montana.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".

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Agave ×'Baccarat'
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About 3 years old. Growing in Philadelphia, outside Mid-March to Thanksgiving.
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Agave 'Baccarat' (Crystal Bowl Agave) - This slow to moderate growing agave forms solitary artichoke-like rosettes that can grow to 4 feet tall and wide with short broad grey-green leaves. This plant has leaves that have long dark terminal spines and wide spaced large teeth along the leaf margins that imprint a beautiful saw-tooth pattern on the flat surfaces of the next emerging leaf. Plant in full sun to light shade. Little irrigation required. Hardy to to zero degrees F.(Zone 7). This plant was originally thought to be a selection of the Mountain Agave, Agave montana, a species previously lumped into the Agave macroculmis complex with Agave gentryi but both now have been recognized as separate and more distantly related species with the name Agave macroculmis now considered only as a synonym for Agave atrovirens. This selected clone was collected in 1997 by Wade Roitsch of Yucca Do Nursery in madrone-pine-oak forest near La Encantada in southwestern Nuevo Leon at about 9000' elevation. It has proven itself at Yucca Do Nursery in Hempstead Texas where it has held up well to hot summers and wet and cold winters. The cultivar name 'Baccarat' was given to this plant because the bud imprinting and coloration on the leaves reminded him of the multi-faceted effect of a bowl of fine cut Baccarat Crystal. We have long listed this plant as Agave montana 'Baccarat' but after years of observation, Carl Schoenfeld and Wade Roitsch at Yucca Do Nursery now believe this plant to be a natural intergrade between Agave gentryi and Agave montana and so rightfully should just be called Agave 'Baccarat'. (Courtesy San Marcos Growers site)
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FWIW I don't consider this to be an intergrade between montana and gentryi. To me this looks like a perfect Agave gentryi. There are many populations out there that resemble this strongly.
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A few at Peckerwood Gardens, the former grounds of Yuccado Nursery
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Here is my latest addition. Baccarat from each source is slightly different.
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Looks a hell of lot like many of the plants posted under straight up Agave montana....
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Doesn't look the same thing to me.
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I would agree but the agave in the group all varied slightly, and several looked more like standard Baccarat.
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