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Re: more Aloe seedlings

Post Number:#101  Postby Spination » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:14 am

Marlon Machado wrote:Great Tom! And nice crosses too. I am curious to see what the Oik seedlings will look like.


Thanks Marlon. With the two different 'Oik' setting seed - I'm almost embarrassed to say that I won't know precisely the complete other 1/2 of the parentage until the seedlings are old enough (circa 1 year) - that is if I'm lucky enough to get germination. Candidates are pollen from 'Sal' on one, and castilloniae (a "normal" one from Germany), and the other 'Oik' got pollen from 'Salt', 'Dark Shadows', and I think the last flower or two got some from my other castilloniae (from Hungary - weird one with bumps on leaves). I did not want to lose opportunities for each flower to set seed, so if there was no pollen seen on the paint brush from one donor, then I used another. I guess I could accurately describe the pollination theme as a round robin tournament, with the winners to be determined later. :lol: However, I only used the pollen from plants I like a lot, and which I felt could add interesting potential qualities in the seedlings. There were other choices as well, but nothing I felt would potentially add improvement to the progeny (speculation of course - who really knows for sure until it's done). So, it's all good... I think. ::wink:: At the least, the seedling batches will probably show some interesting variation.

Steph - nice job. Like your A. peglerae, these non-hybrid seedlings of A. melancantha I've got going are quite slow, also pudgy (and funny looking), and maybe got too much light (more red than I'd like to see - LED lighting). When I see they've gone too far with the light, evidenced by turning red, I put a colored lid sideways over the container, to filter some of that light, and then new leaves come back in green. For seedlings, I think green is good.
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Re: more Aloe seedlings

Post Number:#102  Postby Steph115 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:55 am

Thanks, Spiny! I'm sure you are probably right about seedlings doing better when green. On goes the shade cloth!
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Re: more Aloe seedlings

Post Number:#103  Postby Spination » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:42 pm

Made my day today! I thought yesterday perhaps the enigmatic, problematic (for me) A. castilloniae might finally be producing seed pods for me, after several failed attempts now previously. I didn't want to get too hopeful, but today when out there messing around again - there is no doubt now. Finally!
Wooo!
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Definitely, those are seed pods in the making. D))
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I was speculating as to why I couldn't get these to develop fruit, and I thought perhaps the pollen donor was incompatible, or that I just didn't do it right. So, I used pollen from several favorites available - 'Salt', 'Dark Shadows', 'Oik' (tried more with that), and 'Dracula's Blood'. I think 'Oik' will be at least one of the most likely pollen parents, but of course I don't know for sure - I'll have to figure it out later when I see what the results look like. I do know it's one or more of those anyway, and I'd be happy with any!
To address the worry that it was my technique (like maybe the stigma was deeper than usual inside the flower compared to others I have no problem with?) I shoved (gently) the brush very deep into the flower, with a twisting motion, to make absolutely sure pollen was getting in there.
Anyway, finally some seed pods!

Here it was 11 days ago, and one thing about castilloniae... there are only a few flowers, not much to work with!
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Re: more Aloe seedlings

Post Number:#104  Postby Marlon Machado » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:10 pm

Contratulations Tom! I look forward to see the results of this cross!
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Re: more Aloe seedlings

Post Number:#105  Postby Spination » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:14 am

Me too! I just ordered a new seedling heat mat, because I've run out of room on the 3 I've been using. There's 20 containers with seedlings right now, not counting a few more new freshly sown with no germination yet. However, I have pods drying, and more on the way - so time to dedicate more space so I can keep the ball rolling. D))
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Re: more Aloe seedlings

Post Number:#106  Postby Spination » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:53 pm

A few in the hopper I'm excited about...
Seed parent
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Seedlings
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Seed parent
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Seedlings
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Seed parent
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Seedlings - one went missing, but happy 6 are left. I didn't have high hopes to begin with, since there was only one pod to work with...
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