Gasteria hybrid seedlings

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Gasteria hybrid seedlings

Post Number:#1  Postby Spination » Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:10 pm

They're not much to look at yet, but I'm really excited I have had some measure of initial success with 3 different hybrids, all involving Gasteria rawlinsonii, both as pollen donor and seed parent.

I had almost given up on this one, but today noticed that there are at least 2 seedlings in here after all, after several months waiting. My own first Gasteraloe!
from Gasteria rawlinsonii seed pods resulting from a cross with Aloe 'Sunrise' pollen.
2016 09 20 Gasteria rawlinsonii S X Aloe Sunrise P.JPG
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from Gasteria marmorata Variegated (white) Seed pods crossed with Gasteria rawlinsonii pollen
2016 09 20 Gasteria marmorata Variegated X Gasteria rawlinsonii b.JPG
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from Gasteria bicolor liliputana seed pods crossed with Gasteria rawlinsonii pollen
2016 09 20 Gasteria bicolor liliputana S X Gasteria rawlinsonii P b.JPG
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Of interest to me is that Gasteria rawlinsonii is an unusual growing Gasteria which is stem forming and distichous. Will be fun to see how much influence this plant has on the 2 Gasteria seed parents. Also, whether the variegated marmorata will result in any variegation in the seedlings. And, particularly interesting, will be to see how this unusual Gasteria's own seedlings develop crossed with one of the more lovely Aloe hybrids out there (Sunrise).

Here are the actual parent plants involved
2016 05 25 Gasteria bicolor liliputana seed parent X750.jpg
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2016 02 23 Gasteria marmorata seed parent.jpg
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2016 04 04 Gasteria rawlinsonii seed parent and pollen donor X750.jpg
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2016 04 04 Aloe Sunrise pollen donor X750.jpg
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Re: Gasteria hybrid seedlings

Post Number:#2  Postby Agavemonger » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:50 pm

Gasterias & Gasteria hybrids, miniature Aloe hybrids, Gasteraloes, and related plants and their hybrids are truly wonderful plants to collect. The resultant progeny from cross-pollinating these plants are always most interesting, and nearly endless in their variety! Some, as they mature, turn out leggy and rather ugly, or can be "touchy" to grow, but there are almost always some compact, cinch-to-grow little gems in the batch. Most of the best looking ones are quite small and "controllable", so make great plants for collectors who are space-challenged, or who might choose to limit their collecting voracity. (Good luck with that! :lol: )

Tom, I am glad to see you going down this path; I look forward to swapping with you for some of your newly-named little gems when you start propagating and get perhaps "a few too many of them" someday not-to-far in the future! ::wink::

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Re: Gasteria hybrid seedlings

Post Number:#3  Postby Spination » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:10 pm

Thank you very much, and I say sincerely I appreciate your words of encouragement. I have utmost respect for you and your work, and it is really nice to receive some positive feedback from someone of your experience and knowledge.
Hopefully, once some various seedlings and future seedlings have shown their stuff, whatever that may be, and you find any interesting enough as trading material, it would be a pleasure.
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Re: Gasteria hybrid seedlings

Post Number:#4  Postby Spination » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:35 pm

progress
G. marmorata Variegated S X G. rawlinsonii P
2017 06 12 Gasteria marmorata Variegated S X Gasteria rawlinsonii a X800.jpg
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G. liliputana S X G. rawlinsonii P - oddly, wound up with an orphan A. polyphylla seedling in there (re-used a container with no germination, but I guess one came late after all)
2017 06 12 Gasteria liliputana S X Gasteria rawlinsonii P b.jpg
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G. rawlinsonii S X Aloe 'Marmalade' P
2017 06 12 Gasteria rawlinsonii S X Aloe Marmalade P b.jpg
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Above, I have Aloe 'Sunrise' shown previously as the pollen donor of the last seedlings- that's mistaken. It was Aloe 'Marmalade', and this was the plant. Not sure if it makes much difference as Sunrise and Marmalade are similar enough, and the Gasteria rawlinsonii influence seems to be quite dominating.
2016 04 27 Aloe Marmalade pollen to G rawlinsonii X750.jpg
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Re: Gasteria hybrid seedlings

Post Number:#5  Postby Spination » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:56 am

This one coming along...
2017 12 01 Gasteria rawlinsonii b.jpg
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already contemplating crossing it with these, and these two to each other (if that will work)
2017 12 01 Gasteria carinata ssp varrucosa Snow White b.jpg
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A better look at this cultivar without the red light
2016 09 21 Gasteria carinata ssp Varrucosa Snow White d.JPG
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And a potential curiosity...
this Hawaorthia truncata - a seemingly unusually tall plant...
2017 12 02 Haworthia truncata a.jpg
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has two developing seed pods resulting from pollen from this Gasteria 'Platinum'
2017 12 02 Gasteria Platinum a.jpg
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2017 12 02 Gasteria Platinum b.jpg
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Re: Gasteria hybrid seedlings

Post Number:#6  Postby Spination » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:12 pm

Now crossing these 3 plants together. 'Snow White' to the other, and rawlinsonii and the one 'Snow White' to each other.
2018 01 08 Gasteria carinata ssp Varicosa Snow White blooming X 2 a.jpg
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2018 01 08 Gasteria carinata ssp Varicosa Snow White blooming X 2 b.jpg
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2018 01 08 Gasteria rawlinsonii blooming _ Gasteria carinata ssp Varicosa Snow White blooming X 2.jpg
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Re: Gasteria hybrid seedlings

Post Number:#7  Postby Spination » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:14 pm

and the progress of G. rawlinsonii hybrid seedlings
G. marmorata seeds with G. rawlinsonii pollen
2018 01 08 Gasteria marmorata Variegated S X Gasteria rawlinsonii P a.jpg
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G. bicolor v Liliputana seeds with G. rawlinsonii pollen
2018 01 08 Gasteria bicolor liliputana S X Gasteria rawlinsonii P b.jpg
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G. rawlinsonii seeds with Aloe 'Marmalade' pollen
2018 01 08 Gasteria rawlinsonii S X Aloe Marmalade P a.jpg
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It would appear that G. rawlinsonii is a heavy influence on the outcome, whether by seed or by pollen - due to the fact that although marmorata and liliputana and the aloe are all quite different - by and large, the seedlings look very similar. The marmorata seedlings have wider leaves with more round tips, the liliputana seedlings have narrower leaves, and the aloe seedlings have pointier tips. All of them at this point feature the distichous form of rawlinsonii, with new leaves stacking up on the stem. That could change, but I don't believe it will.
Most interesting will be the look of them in a year or two, with more leaves, and taller plants.
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