Aloe Quicksilver Bleck hybrid?

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Aloe Quicksilver Bleck hybrid?

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I recently aquired Aloe Quicksilver plants from two different sorces. They don't match up. Which is correct?
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What is the hybrid in the background of #1?

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Jay that is a seedling.everybody ask about that one. Some say it looks like Dark Shadows but it get a nice blue color in the Winter Season.
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Looks very much like it has the "good" form of castilloniae as a parent or grandparent. Any chance we can get a full frontal of this bad boy?

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J,The seedling in question still showing some blue color back in May. Woody
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Very cool, thanks. Looks maybe like one of the KG thingamajigs?
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Woody - regarding your original question... the aloe I have acquired as 'Quicksilver' are a match for your second pictured plant. First photo looks to be something else.

Also, regarding your 'Dark Shadows' - the one I got came from a seller who grows everything hard. So, it was very darkly colored, very compact, featuring a very tight rosette. If yours is the same plant, it apparently was grown in low light, which then would explain it's very open and longer leaved form, and very different look to it.
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Looks like many of John Becks's aloe hybrids were TCed by Huntington ISI including Quicksilver. Oh what joy it is...
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Dave's Garden has a photo of Quicksilver by Palmbob that resembles my 1st photo...
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I usually keep a question mark regarding ID in my mind for plants acquired, unless the source is absolutely indubitable ( like KZ hybrids direct from HBG ). Getting a second plant from a second source that matches the first is one form of confirmation that's reassuring. The problem with online sources for ID (Google, Daves, Pinterest, anywhere), is that there are too many mis-ID'd photos out there. You can look up any hybrid, and find examples posted of very different looking plants... clearly in such cases, they can't all be right. Finally, there is the question of variability, and differences due to culture and conditions. I would expect genetic variation to be minor, but culture (mostly lighting) can make a big difference. Another issue I've run across is cases where folks are growing seedlings, and them naming them as if they were clones of the parent, which clearly they are not. If it's not an offset (or TC) of the actual named hybrid, then it is not that named hybrid. One of my pet peeves is when someone says "ex-DW, or KZ hybrid, KG hybrid..." and in the same sentence discloses that it's one of their own seedlings. Uh, no...if it's their own seedling, it most certainly can not be blamed on or credited to the original hybridizer for the obvious reason - it might have been created using plants they originally bred, but they didn't breed the seedling being offered. Kind of an important difference!

Of course, the difficulty with trusting sources for correct ID was again brought home for me right here, when you correctly questioned a plant I bought a few years back from a nursery with professionally printed label - Aloe 'Viper', but actually and apparently it was not!

My Quicksilver was from a large operation known as Monterrey Bay Nursery - and I take that ID with a grain of salt. My suspicion is that they got TC liners from another source such as RSN, grew them larger and then distributed them - but even if that happened, it doesn't guarantee they were acquired with the correct ID, or that a mistake wasn't made somewhere down on the line. Mine does match your second plant, but it could be they are both the same mis-ID'd plant (if incorrect), as obviously they were produced en masse, and those plants with ID's sent out all over - so from the same original source most likely... I would think that Palmbob's photo would be more credible as a source - but I don't know.

Maybe Monger could offer an opinion, as he is a wealth of knowledge regarding the plethora of named hybrids out there.
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For comparison, here's mine...
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I guess it's like Ella use to sing "Anything Goes"
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New image of QS aloe parentage is A. Lizard Lips x A. rauhii.
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