O. gosseliana ID confirmed?
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O. gosseliana ID confirmed?
This plant (as a single pad) was on another older thread previously ID'd tentatively as O. gosseliana, but not the Santa Rita as I thought. I believe that astute observation is now confirmed with the advent of it's first flower.
One distinction as I recall mentioned is that the pure yellow flower is gosseliana, whereas the Santa Rita flower is a bit different. Or? Not that my eye is sharp enough with these to tell the difference, but this plant below is the real Santa Rita (thanks!!! Thijs)
One distinction as I recall mentioned is that the pure yellow flower is gosseliana, whereas the Santa Rita flower is a bit different. Or? Not that my eye is sharp enough with these to tell the difference, but this plant below is the real Santa Rita (thanks!!! Thijs)
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Spination, that plant i sent you I got labeled as O. santarita... I have had people question that and suggest it might be O. gosseliana as well. I have found no reason to doubt the original plant label, but....
Those plants are very very similar: Check the plants out at opuntiads.com. Both are reported there with fully yellow flowers and as varieties of O. chlorotica...
Those plants are very very similar: Check the plants out at opuntiads.com. Both are reported there with fully yellow flowers and as varieties of O. chlorotica...
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Thanks for the additional info...even if they're the same, it's a very nice plant, and I don't mind having another at all.
It could be an individual plant sort of thing, but I'm noticing that the one you just sent me is already more red than when I got it (and not for lack of water). It's not my imagination either, pictures confirm it as well. The one I had, at least the more aged pad is reluctant to turn red, although the brand new pads are very colored up. Both are located very close to each other, so getting the same quality/duration of sunshine. At least as far as the individual plants go, the one you sent me seems definitely more apt to color with sun.
Maybe I'll get a flower on the new one this next year, and I can compare further.
Either way, I really like them and while it's nice having the correct ID, it's the plants that I find quite appealing.
It could be an individual plant sort of thing, but I'm noticing that the one you just sent me is already more red than when I got it (and not for lack of water). It's not my imagination either, pictures confirm it as well. The one I had, at least the more aged pad is reluctant to turn red, although the brand new pads are very colored up. Both are located very close to each other, so getting the same quality/duration of sunshine. At least as far as the individual plants go, the one you sent me seems definitely more apt to color with sun.
Maybe I'll get a flower on the new one this next year, and I can compare further.
Either way, I really like them and while it's nice having the correct ID, it's the plants that I find quite appealing.
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Re: O. gosseliana ID confirmed?
Here are two pictures of flowers on the mother plant of the plant that I sent you. One looks pretty much full yellow, while you could maybe detect a hint of an orange-red throat in the other...
Here are a couple of pictures of the O. stenopetala mother plant - more of a sprawler rather than a bushy plant. First an overview, second pic a close-up of the flower which are really cool looking.
They are great plants too look at, but terrible plants to have to handle... Fortunately they are not huge sprawlers, more upright and bushy, so somewhat containable.Here are a couple of pictures of the O. stenopetala mother plant - more of a sprawler rather than a bushy plant. First an overview, second pic a close-up of the flower which are really cool looking.
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I was told this was O.macrocentra. It will as summer goes on turn very purple. Maybe with orange and reds splotched in.
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Here is my Optunia Violacea Macrocentra Texas Santa Rita pad cuttings I got in April that Bloomed
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Does not look wrong for macrocentra, Stan.
WTA - looking good.
WTA - looking good.
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Re: O. gosseliana ID confirmed?
There is some confusion in the description of O. santa-rita and O. gosseliniana in Anderson's The Cactus Family. Because of these mistakes in his book it has led to some confusion, however, if the pads come from a plant in the US they are most likely O. santa-rita. O. gosseliniana is a real species but its confined to across the border in Sonora, Mexico. O. santa-rita has pure yellow flowers. All the plants in here with yellow flowers are O. santa-rita. The others were what Anderson made a mistake with, he mistakenly used a sample that was mislabeled for his description of O. santa-rita, and it was rather a form of O. macrocentra. All of those plants are in the famous old named (Opuntia violacea) which has been split up into O. macrocentra, O. azurea, O. gosseliniana, O. santa-rita, and O. chlorotica. Hope this clears it up a little bit.
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If I remember right- no promises- Mine is O.macrocentra because of the flower and large spines. O.goss,etc, being short spined?
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