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Sorry, dunno anything about storing pollen, and the plant is done flowering.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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Tally from my Mangave cross is 12 developing pods on the Bloodspot and one (that's right -- one) big fat pod on the A. isthmensis. It seems pretty clear that neither self-fertilizes, so all should be hybrid seed. I assume the Bloodspot seed should develop quickly, so perhaps a harvest in just weeks. The Agave OTOH, will take longer, and the developing pod may wind up at risk from freezing temps.
Also, this is what's sitting atop one A. zebra at the moment. It's sure taking its sweet time, but with luck, I'll get a boatload of prime seed out of this.
Also, this is what's sitting atop one A. zebra at the moment. It's sure taking its sweet time, but with luck, I'll get a boatload of prime seed out of this.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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My latest bloomer is progressing with lightening speed, and progressing toward something dramatically unfamiliar. In addition to odd bloom time, the stalk is like nothing I've seen, far too congested for the likes of murpheyi, palmeri, chrysantha, or any other AZ Agave. Does this type of congested inflorescence look familiar to anyone?
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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It does remind me somewhat of the McKelveyana x Utahensis hybrid flower stalk you posted pictures of - clearly not quite the same, but still some clear similarities - so maybe a hybrid of A. utahensis with one of the other Central AZ Agaves?
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Yeah, we found a bunch of those blooming last summer, at least a half dozen. I collected a little seed, and have a few coming up now. I see what you mean, but this is not quite the same, as you say. Perhaps some manner of Littaea hybrid though.... Geesh, what an oddball. BTW, this is the same Agave that suddenly and shockingly turned variegate this past summer, though it has now mostly reverted to its previous state.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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Did you suspect that as A. murpheyi? Or do I not remember that correctly?
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I suspected a murpheyi hybrid -- not so much now...
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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^ That might look a lot like utahansis × mckelveyana, which is very closely related to simplex. This plant doesn't look anything like those hybrids. The few Agave × Littaea stalks I've seen (ajoensis, Sharkskin, mack × utah) are very similar and somewhat different from this.
Could be anything really.... How about tecta x parviflora? Actually, that stalk reminds me more of Hiemiflorae than a Littaea hybrid, but the plant sure doesn't...
Could be anything really.... How about tecta x parviflora? Actually, that stalk reminds me more of Hiemiflorae than a Littaea hybrid, but the plant sure doesn't...
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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This stalk has moved thing along at an impressive pace. Two months from start to bloom is really fast for a panicle like this. Flowers are small (perhaps 40 mm), tepals erect with no callouses.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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My crop of 2017 bloomers is starting to shape up. We have what I suspect may be A. lophantha × macroacantha, A. wocomahi, and A. wercklei getting ready to tango. The A. wocomahi has been poised and ready for nearly a year now, the other two are more recent developments. I promised Melt a pup from the first guy years ago, but it never produced a single one. Hopefully I'll wind up with seed or bulbils to spread around.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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I bet if you cored that one right now you'd get a bunch of pups Here's hoping it makes some bulbils, or pups furiously as the husk dries up!
I am going to have Sharkskin and an unknown hybrid (chrysoglossa x?) for sure, and I am suspiciously eying nickelsiae, one of my 'Blue Glow', 'Burnt Burgundy', pelona x vilmoriniana, nizandensis, and a couple others I can't remember. It should be a good year to free up some space!
I am going to have Sharkskin and an unknown hybrid (chrysoglossa x?) for sure, and I am suspiciously eying nickelsiae, one of my 'Blue Glow', 'Burnt Burgundy', pelona x vilmoriniana, nizandensis, and a couple others I can't remember. It should be a good year to free up some space!
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^ I'll be sure to re-sticky the pollen thread before too long.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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After carefully cross-pollinating and patiently awaiting results, the final tally is in. I wound up with four hybrid seeds from the Bloodspot, of which one was viable, and eight hybrid seeds from the isthmensis.Gee.S wrote:I wonder if maintaining close proximity might encourage these stalks to stay in synch. Unfortunately, that might prove a dangerous experiment, since Manfreda/Mangave seem a packrat's favorite snack...
Only good news is that it looks like I'll get a nice healthy stash of isthmensis seed before too long.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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On the agenda so far for this year is A. angustifolia (in progress), A. wercklei (in progress), A. wocomahi, A. lophantha × macroacantha (best guess), A. 'Blue Glow', and A. 'Celsii Multicolor'.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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The current lineup...
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The wercklei stalk photo sure is pretty. Can you tell me approximately how old these plants are, or even how long they've been in the ground?
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Dunno how old most are, and most have been in the ground for a few years.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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Another pending bloomer.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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A couple of my plants nearing the end.
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I kinda like that colorata. Has it ever offset?
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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Greg, are you saying "this was supposed to be the large form of colorata but isn't"? Or, the "large form of colorata" is actually not that species?
Also, we should trade some pollen. I'll let you climb the ladder to the sharksin flowers
Also, we should trade some pollen. I'll let you climb the ladder to the sharksin flowers
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A new clue has developed, bulbils appear to be forming along the stalk, along with seed.Gee.S wrote:My latest bloomer is progressing with lightening speed, and progressing toward something dramatically unfamiliar. In addition to odd bloom time, the stalk is like nothing I've seen, far too congested for the likes of murpheyi, palmeri, chrysantha, or any other AZ Agave. Does this type of congested inflorescence look familiar to anyone?
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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My presumed A. wercklei is now in full bloom, and flowers are much too large for A. wercklei. OTOH, they align nicely with A. hurteri. I just clipped a branch and will try to pollinate my Macho Mocha.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
"Some talk the talk, others walk the walk, but I stalk the stalk"