A few shots around the garden...

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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#76  Postby Gee.S » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:25 pm

A couple of my favorite Agaves looking forward to the return of Spring...

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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#77  Postby Gee.S » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:43 pm

A few random shots. The A. pachycentra was pretty severely frost damaged before being chewed nearly to the ground less than a year ago. I almost tossed it. Pretty astonishing recovery, if you ask me.

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This is an offset that popped up between A. 'Mr. Ripple' and A. wercklei. No clue.... A. wercklei is solitary, and it doesn't look anything like a Mr. Ripple offset I removed from the plant referenced.

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Then we have a variegated neomex with several dead older leaves. I'd guess it didn't appreciate our unusually soggy winter.

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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#78  Postby Spination » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:49 pm

Great recovery.

And, I'm drooling...you know why. :lol:
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#79  Postby Gee.S » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:01 pm

See those little offsets? They're AT LEAST two years old, and I can just barely see 'em without a magnifying glass. ::roll::
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#80  Postby Spination » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:13 pm

Of course I saw them... that's why I'm drooling! :lol:

I also have some yet small variegated offsets that I've been waiting on forever (parryi Parryi, palmeri, asperrima). By the time yours and mine are big enough, perhaps you could be enticed into a trade? D))
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#81  Postby Gee.S » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:18 pm

Yeah, we'll do a trade for our 80th birthdays.... :frown:
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#82  Postby Spination » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:35 pm

That sounds promising... D))
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#83  Postby KLC » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:35 am

Gee.S wrote:Then we have a variegated neomex with several dead older leaves. I'd guess it didn't appreciate our unusually soggy winter.

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There were many agaves in my collection that did not appreciate all of the rain we had over the winter. Along with a few dozen that rotten in the nursery, there is a A. havardiana in the garden I have been growing for at least 3 or 4 years that has decided to let it's lower leaves go. Maybe the warmer weather will slow down it's demise. A. applanata also followed down that path. Both plants have been very slow growing, maybe their slow vigor had something to do with it.
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#84  Postby Viegener » Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:58 pm

Sorry about all these winter losses, but I'm glad I'm not the only one. Monger mentioned on another thread that the wet winter also much increased the amount of fungal spores floating around. This sounds right to me, based on the number of wet-sensitive agaves I lost this winter despite having moved them under cover. Most of them got moved under shelter, but I didn't do this until about 1/3 of the way in. I think some of them had already gotten some rot.
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#85  Postby DesertDweller » Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:29 pm

KLC wrote:
Gee.S wrote:Then we have a variegated neomex with several dead older leaves. I'd guess it didn't appreciate our unusually soggy winter.


There were many agaves in my collection that did not appreciate all of the rain we had over the winter. Along with a few dozen that rotten in the nursery, there is a A. havardiana in the garden I have been growing for at least 3 or 4 years that has decided to let it's lower leaves go. Maybe the warmer weather will slow down it's demise. A. applanata also followed down that path. Both plants have been very slow growing, maybe their slow vigor had something to do with it.


I have been fortunate, perhaps even lucky, that my (in my opinion) liberal watering did not overlap any of the big rains we had. I did make a concerted effort to watch the forecast and not have them be anything other than bone dry if rain was actually a possibility. Stuff on the porch is "safe" from the evils of excessive rain, but on the side of the house, my 'agave row' has more than once ended up sitting in two inches of standing water for a few hours until things drained off.

Oddly, my only real loss was a pair of plants that I think must have had something tagging along when I bought it. A 3-gallon or so sized A. parryi v. huachucensis and its pup, both of which, despite conservative watering, came down with some strange (fungal?) ailment. Seemed to flare up in the cold, humid days of winter rain. It never spread, and while momma and pup were both separated for months by this time, they both took a dive, hence me thinking it was something lying dormant the whole time. My other A. parryi v. huachucensis are untouched, despite being from the same batch in the same nursery. Nothing I tried could save this one, or the pup, ended up tossing both. They would appear to recover for a while, but as soon as it got cold and damp again, I would go out and, literally overnight, more leaves would have succumbed. :(

Anyone seen this sorta thing in cold weather before? Leaf tips browning out like this, overnight in some cases, was surreal. I could not believe how fast it progressed. Not sure how well it shows on the pics, but there was also some kind of yellow spotting and what looked like goose bumps.

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The pup (on the left, one on the right just has regular desiccation of old leaves and to this day is fine):
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As I said, never spread to anything, thankfully, but disappointing none the less.
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#86  Postby KLC » Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:36 pm

Seen that a bunch. I'm not so sure it's caused by a pathogen though, I think it is environment induced. Depending on how loaded the cells are with water, cold weather does some strange things to agaves.

Rot almost always starts at the base of the leaf, unless it begins in a black circle in the middle. Often times only the tightly folded new leaves will rot. If you have patience, a new core might regrow. I toss 'em though.
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#87  Postby Azuleja » Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:11 pm

Yes, I got a mail order nursery plant with these symptoms. One leaf after another succumbed to fungal infection that started at the tip and worked inward rapidly. I stopped it by cutting off all the leaves that showed black spots and spraying with a systemic fungicide. Copper solution didn't slow it down one bit.
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#88  Postby Melt in the Sun » Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:39 pm

When I see little round bumps like that I think "bacteria". Not sure why...maybe an old Xeric world thread?
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#89  Postby Viegener » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:06 pm

I'm not fooling around with copper anymore in the winter. Systemic fungicides only, despite my pretty much no-spray attitude.

What systemic fungicides are you people using?
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#90  Postby DesertDweller » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:19 pm

Azuleja wrote:Yes, I got a mail order nursery plant with these symptoms. One leaf after another succumbed to fungal infection that started at the tip and worked inward rapidly. I stopped it by cutting off all the leaves that showed black spots and spraying with a systemic fungicide. Copper solution didn't slow it down one bit.


I tried liberal applications of daconil, repeatedly on this guy, as well as sulfur fungicide. Did absolutely nothing to abate the issue. What is your systemic of choice these days? I am willing to try something more aggressive if it ever happens again before having to toss a plant.
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#91  Postby Azuleja » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:22 pm

I used Bayer 3-in-1, which I know isn't the best but I had it on hand. I believe it's tebuconazole. Prior to that, I treated 3 separate times with copper solution.
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#92  Postby Gee.S » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:35 pm

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Y. rostrata / M. 'Macho Mocha' blooming
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A. chiapensis
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A. tequilana / A. 'Blue Glow' / A. titanota-ish / A. chiapensis / A. shawii ssp. goldmaniana / A. guadalajarana / A. vilmoriniana 'Stained Glass' / A. murpheyi
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A. wocomahi finally going to bolt after lying ready for a whole year
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Agave cauliflower, hopefully bulbils to follow
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A. angustifolia / Hooded Oriole
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The green Agave in the middle is 'Emerald Envy' and about 5' across.
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#93  Postby Gee.S » Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:37 pm

And some new acquisitions... Because I clearly don't have enough Agaves already... ::roll::

Left to right we have A. wercklei, M. 'Silver Leopard', and A. schidigera.

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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#94  Postby Jkwinston » Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:39 pm

Gee.S wrote:And some new acquisitions... Because I clearly don't have enough Agaves already... ::roll::

Left to right we have A. wercklei, M. 'Silver Leopard', and A. schidigera.

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Really? Jkw
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#95  Postby Agave_fan » Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:00 pm

Gee.S wrote:And some new acquisitions... Because I clearly don't have enough Agaves already... ::roll::


No one can EVER have enough agaves...

I like the new babies
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#96  Postby Gee.S » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:05 pm

I've just completed a garden tour and was struck by the following....

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As an experiment I added a really sun-sensitive A. marmorata to the grounds late last autumn in the hopes it might miraculously adapt. So far, so good -- it looks absolutely terrific and no longer yellows from exposure. I'll probably pull and discard large offsets to maximize growth.

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Young seedling tray still out of doors into June. Another successful experiment.

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A. hurteri stalk still in process of blooming. I had long since abandoned any hope of seed, when lo and behold! This welcome change seems to coincide with a blooming A. chrysantha out in front. A. hurteri × chrysantha anyone?

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A. arizonica will soon bloom. Ancillary stalks are already blooming. I pulled the nicest offset and potted it up late last summer.

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I just noticed this Starr Nursery A. sobria is starting to look interesting.

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Bulbils forming on a UFO Agave. No clue, but it's attractive and well-suited for life in AZ sun, always a plus! Below is a shot before it bloomed.
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A. durangensis (left) is really coming into its own. It's actually starting to give my A. guadalajarana a run for the money!

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A. asperrima added late last summer. It's getting lit up and struggling just a bit, but newer leaves seem to be adapting to full sun.

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A. seemannniana ssp. pygmae added to ground last autumn as an experiment. So far, it's handling AZ sun like a champ.
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#97  Postby toditd » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:56 pm

Gee.S wrote:A. durangensis (left) is really coming into its own. It's actually starting to give my A. guadalajarana a run for the money!

That may be true, but for me the A. guadalajarana steals the show. That's a fantastic plant! Thanks for the quick tour.
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#98  Postby Azuleja » Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:07 pm

^those two together are very complementary and especially beautiful.
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#99  Postby Gee.S » Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:16 pm

Azuleja wrote:^those two together are very complementary and especially beautiful.

I'm with you Azul! That guadalajarana has looked terrific for years, while the durangensis was just the ugly duckling next door. Not so any more!
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Re: A few shots around the garden...

Post Number:#100  Postby Steph115 » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:54 am

Thank you for sharing these photos of your garden. The composition is really breathtaking. That photo of the durangensis and the guadalajarana is probably my favorite. They look like soldiers guarding the entryway to the little cacti right behind them.
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