Dracaena cinnabari seedling growth

Use this forum to discuss matters relating to Cordyline, Dracaena, Sansevieria, Beaucarnea, Calibanus, Dasylirion, Nolina and related species.

Moderator: Spination

Dracaena cinnabari seedling growth

Post Number:#1  Postby Stone Jaguar » Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:28 am

Greetings.

This species has a bit of a reputation for being glacially slow-growing in youth. Herein, a slightly different take. I purchased these as very small seedlings in 7.5 cm/3" plastic pots last September. I immediately repotted them in a NPK + Mg + Ca-rich, very sharply-drained, slightly alkaline medium in clay pots. They were potted up again in late January and early June of this year. Until June they were grown on my west-facing bay window, but have been outside on the deck getting direct sun for several hours a day ever since.

Dracaeana cinnabari II  (1).jpg
Dracaeana cinnabari II (1).jpg (131.65 KiB) Viewed 295 times


Dracaena cinnabari single.jpg
Dracaena cinnabari single.jpg (132.73 KiB) Viewed 295 times


I'm quite pleased with the development of these dracaeanas so far. They have been fed and watered fairly aggressively for their entire time with me, so they appear to respond well to forcing. For scale, both are currently in 18 cm/7" slotted clay pots. As is typical for the species, leaves are thick and very rigid so care is required not to flex the leaves since that will usually result in breakage.

Cheers,

Jay
User avatar
Stone Jaguar
Ready to Bolt
 
Posts: 321
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:46 am
Location: SF Bay Area, California and Guatemala City, Guatemala

Re: Dracaena cinnabari seedling growth

Post Number:#2  Postby Spination » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:06 am

Nice! A plant definitely on my wish list for some time, but has eluded me. Tried some seeds, but they were bad, or it was my bad...not sure. I've got draco, but cinnabari is the real deal as far as I know.
User avatar
Spination
Moderator
 
Posts: 2856
Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:06 am
Location: Sonoma, Ca.

Re: Dracaena cinnabari seedling growth

Post Number:#3  Postby Agavemonger » Tue May 16, 2017 7:48 am

Quite an accomplishment, Jay! :8:

This extremely rare and exceedingly unique and bizarre species is among the most special plants in the entire world.

It would be so cool to have large amounts of them in cultivation.

A truly visionary master gardener with superb down-range vision could then approach the Board of Directors of a major public park (in a relatively frost-free area, of course) with his hundred+ year plan to set dozens of these on a grid pattern on some little-used hilly slope in the park, thereby creating a Dr. Seuss wonderland for future generations.

There are a couple of even more rare giant Draceana species that are equally bizarre.

The Monger
User avatar
Agavemonger
Ready to Bolt
 
Posts: 799
Joined: Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:58 pm
Location: San Diego, California

Re: Dracaena cinnabari seedling growth

Post Number:#4  Postby Spination » Tue May 16, 2017 8:06 am

Agavemonger wrote:Quite an accomplishment, Jay! :8:

This extremely rare and exceedingly unique and bizarre species is among the most special plants in the entire world.

It would be so cool to have large amounts of them in cultivation.

A truly visionary master gardener with superb down-range vision could then approach the Board of Directors of a major public park (in a relatively frost-free area, of course) with his hundred+ year plan to set dozens of these on a grid pattern on some little-used hilly slope in the park, thereby creating a Dr. Seuss wonderland for future generations.

There are a couple of even more rare giant Draceana species that are equally bizarre.

The Monger


even more rare? Wow. One time.... ONCE - I was able to finally find ... and get seeds from Portugal - 4 seeds @ $5 each. That was my Jack-In-the-Beanstalk moment. :lol: Except at least Jack got his beanstalks! I got seeds that did nothing, total bust. Once or twice I've seen seedlings on Ebay - cost prohibitive from my point of view. My experience is this is one super-hard to acquire plant. To think there are even more rare, equally bizarre species is mind boggling. Those must be literally impossible to find, for a simple hobbyist fellow like me. D))
User avatar
Spination
Moderator
 
Posts: 2856
Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:06 am
Location: Sonoma, Ca.

Re: Dracaena cinnabari seedling growth

Post Number:#5  Postby Agavemonger » Tue May 16, 2017 8:21 am

Jay:

What you are growing is the TRUE "Dragon Tree" or "Dragon's Blood" tree.

This is the species that has the REAL "Dragon's Blood".

Known as "Cinnabar" in ancient trade going back beyond the Roman trade route days, the dried red resinous sap had (and still has!) a range of traditional medicinal uses. It is known as "Emzoloh" locally in Socotra.

This species is unique to the Socotran Archipelago off the coast of Yemen, where it is, of course, endangered by both human pressure and climate change (Socotra is less and less exposed to humid winds and is drying out long-term.) :frown:

I certainly hope that we can somehow come up with a lot more seeds being germinated, leading to plants in cultivation, and get these trees established in different gardens (Think Hawaii or Tahiti (or Guatemala! ::wink:: )).

That way, in a hundred or so years, they will generate tons of seed from which to disseminate & preserve this truly exceptional species. :U :D

Here are your plants in a few hundred years:

The Monger
Attachments
dracaena-cinnabari.jpg
dracaena-cinnabari.jpg (119.19 KiB) Viewed 189 times
User avatar
Agavemonger
Ready to Bolt
 
Posts: 799
Joined: Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:58 pm
Location: San Diego, California

Re: Dracaena cinnabari seedling growth

Post Number:#6  Postby Agavemonger » Tue May 16, 2017 9:17 am

Spiny---

One other species that I saw a plant or two of over the years is Draceana ombet, which hails from the Eygptian deserts and possibly a few other countries.

What is so cool about these species is that they grow in unbelievably harsh environments, although they respond extremely well to talented cultivation (witness Stone Jaguar's excellent record in speedily achieving well-hardened and fast-growing plants! :8: )

I would assume that these might be frost tender; I lost an entire crop of young Draceana dracos once to about 27 degrees Fahrenheit.

These exceedingly rare species are very difficult to obtain at any price; If you get a chance to pick one up at an at all reasonable price, then jump on it!

Jay: Pot those suckers up and keep 'em speedily growing! You are doing a great job, and deserve a medal for getting these past the danger phase and well along into cultivation! D)) :U

The Monger
User avatar
Agavemonger
Ready to Bolt
 
Posts: 799
Joined: Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:58 pm
Location: San Diego, California

Re: Dracaena cinnabari seedling growth

Post Number:#7  Postby Spination » Tue May 16, 2017 10:33 am

Thanks for the tip Monger, I'll have to check that one out (ombet) and keep an eye open for it, although it sounds like ever coming across one would be like winning the lottery. :lol: I'd be thrilled just to find viable seeds for cinnabari!

I have dracos that I grew from seed, largest one (pampered the most) now 20" tall with lush green leaves. I think that's probably the most common and probably very easy to grow. I know that one of mine saw 26F a couple of times this last winter, and you'd never know it - looks great.
User avatar
Spination
Moderator
 
Posts: 2856
Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:06 am
Location: Sonoma, Ca.

Re: Dracaena cinnabari seedling growth

Post Number:#8  Postby Stan » Tue May 16, 2017 10:35 am

Are those grown in the bay area or Guatemala?
Stan
Ready to Bolt
 
Posts: 1382
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:58 pm


Previous topic Next topic

Return to Nolinoideae Talk

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 12 guests