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Marlon Machado wrote:Great Tom! And nice crosses too. I am curious to see what the Oik seedlings will look like.
Thanks Marlon. With the two different 'Oik' setting seed - I'm almost embarrassed to say that I won't know precisely the complete other 1/2 of the parentage until the seedlings are old enough (circa 1 year) - that is if I'm lucky enough to get germination. Candidates are pollen from 'Sal' on one, and castilloniae (a "normal" one from Germany), and the other 'Oik' got pollen from 'Salt', 'Dark Shadows', and I think the last flower or two got some from my other castilloniae (from Hungary - weird one with bumps on leaves). I did not want to lose opportunities for each flower to set seed, so if there was no pollen seen on the paint brush from one donor, then I used another. I guess I could accurately describe the pollination theme as a round robin tournament, with the winners to be determined later. :lol: However, I only used the pollen from plants I like a lot, and which I felt could add interesting potential qualities in the seedlings. There were other choices as well, but nothing I felt would potentially add improvement to the progeny (speculation of course - who really knows for sure until it's done). So, it's all good... I think. ::wink:: At the least, the seedling batches will probably show some interesting variation.

Steph - nice job. Like your A. peglerae, these non-hybrid seedlings of A. melancantha I've got going are quite slow, also pudgy (and funny looking), and maybe got too much light (more red than I'd like to see - LED lighting). When I see they've gone too far with the light, evidenced by turning red, I put a colored lid sideways over the container, to filter some of that light, and then new leaves come back in green. For seedlings, I think green is good.
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Thanks, Spiny! I'm sure you are probably right about seedlings doing better when green. On goes the shade cloth!
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Made my day today! I thought yesterday perhaps the enigmatic, problematic (for me) A. castilloniae might finally be producing seed pods for me, after several failed attempts now previously. I didn't want to get too hopeful, but today when out there messing around again - there is no doubt now. Finally!
Wooo!
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Definitely, those are seed pods in the making. D))
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I was speculating as to why I couldn't get these to develop fruit, and I thought perhaps the pollen donor was incompatible, or that I just didn't do it right. So, I used pollen from several favorites available - 'Salt', 'Dark Shadows', 'Oik' (tried more with that), and 'Dracula's Blood'. I think 'Oik' will be at least one of the most likely pollen parents, but of course I don't know for sure - I'll have to figure it out later when I see what the results look like. I do know it's one or more of those anyway, and I'd be happy with any!
To address the worry that it was my technique (like maybe the stigma was deeper than usual inside the flower compared to others I have no problem with?) I shoved (gently) the brush very deep into the flower, with a twisting motion, to make absolutely sure pollen was getting in there.
Anyway, finally some seed pods!

Here it was 11 days ago, and one thing about castilloniae... there are only a few flowers, not much to work with!
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Contratulations Tom! I look forward to see the results of this cross!
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Me too! I just ordered a new seedling heat mat, because I've run out of room on the 3 I've been using. There's 20 containers with seedlings right now, not counting a few more new freshly sown with no germination yet. However, I have pods drying, and more on the way - so time to dedicate more space so I can keep the ball rolling. D))
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A few in the hopper I'm excited about...
Seed parent
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Seedlings
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Seedlings - one went missing, but happy 6 are left. I didn't have high hopes to begin with, since there was only one pod to work with...
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Here is another seedling that caught my eye a while back and I've keeping tabs on. It's coming along, and looking pretty good... at least I think so. ::wink::
Aloe 'Sunrise' (S) X Aloe sladeniana (P)
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Spination, you have an amazing seedling operation going here. Do you have a thread where you lay out your process for germination? I've spent a lot of time with the Dave's Garden thread by Geoff, and read a lot of posts on it, but am feeling insanely frustrated that I've been struggling to germinate seeds when it seems like it's so simple.

I think my main problem is that I don't have any good indoor space for it due to toddlers and no greenhouse, so I'm trying to germinate on a heat mat outside. But I'd love to read your step by step if it exists somewhere.
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Thanks for your kind words.

Here is one thread a few years ago where I did delineate what it is I did (post 13) with Aloe ferox seeds.
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Perhaps I have tweaked things a little since...

John, what is it you are doing exactly? If you feel your results are not satisfactory, perhaps there are some small tweaks that can be done to improve your method.

PS - I don't think the lack of indoor space is necessarily the issue... and you are using a heat mat...
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Thanks for being willing to troubleshoot with me! Just read your post.

Seeds I'm using are all from seedpods snagged in the East Bay wild, so to speak. I'm trying some salm-dyckiana, some reitzii, and some thraskii x ferox. Those are all best guesses on parentage, of course. I know the reitzii and thraskii x ferox are viable because my friend has gotten seedlings out of them--he sowed 3-4 weeks ago and has two reitzii seedlings and ~12 thraskii seedlings.

I've been using Ultra Potting Mix from American Soil & Stone, and also have tried it mixed with pumice. It's my general succulent soil and what I had lying about. I ensured the soil was well moistened, but didn't nuke it or sterilize in the oven. Surface sowed the seeds in a seed germination kit from OSH--it's basically 2" plugs with a cover and a heat mat. Thin layer of rough sand atop them to hold them in place.

And that's pretty much it. The same process worked like gangbusters for some ferocactus seeds last year, but this is the 2nd year of trying to sow found aloe seeds with nothing to show for it. Driving me crazy.

Any advice? Is there a time of year by when they NEED to be sowed? Because if this crop really doesn't take I'd love to try again this spring.
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It seems what you're doing should work. Maybe it's too cold yet? I know you have a seedling heat mat, but you also stated it's outside. The mat provides bottom heat, but ambient cool temps might negate a lot of that.

This is what I do. Compared to the mixing of components in that thread from 4 years ago, I've simplified that. I don't make such a fuss about mixing ingredients together anymore. Nowadays I take a handful of cactus mix, dump it into the bottom of a tupperware-like container (small), and then a handful of Black Gold seed starter mix and dump on top of that. Wet, microwave a minute on high with the lid on (not sealed, just resting on top), cool, repeat 2 more times. Sow seeds on top (after final cooling), cover lightly with more seedling starter mix, mist. I keep the mix moist - and place on seedling heat mat (with lid on until germination to keep humidity high. Each day, I open, shake off the condensation from the lid, and lightly mist the surface again. The water I use to mist is spiked with H2O2. Once I get germination, I place the lid upside down, and askew to allow moisture to escape rather than condense - continuing the misting each day. I keep the container lid on for several weeks while the seedlings are growing to mitigate the strong LED lighting I use (which turns the seedlings red if I don't cover). Green plants grow, red ones not so much.

I guess the main difference with what I'm doing is that my germination/seedling area is inside a structure (although unheated) - so cold is mitigated and there is good ambient lighting but not direct sunshine.

Here's what my current seedling situation looks like - several seedling heat mats employed side by side so all containers are bottom heated. Lids on but not upside down means I'm still waiting on germination.
During the day, I shut off the LEDs and take all the lids off, towards the evening I turn the LED back on (shuts off late at night on timer, and back on in the AM by timer) and lay lids over all the containers so the seedlings are not "overdone" by the LED lights. Also, when it's 70 or better inside the structure during the day, I shut off the bank of seedling heat mats and turn back on around evening time. On cold days, they stay on 24-7. On dark days, the lights stay on daytime too.
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And a couple of individual samples
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Once seedlings are a sufficient size, I take that tub, carefully remove the seedlings and pot up individually in 1" x 2 1/2" pots, and they go out into completely different areas. No more lights, no more heat, but still protected inside greenhouse kits.
Sometimes organized on shelves
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Otherwise stuffed here, there, everywhere - shelves, floor, where ever!
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It's a mess :red: , but I know exactly where everything is D)) .
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That's quite the set up! Thanks for giving us a glimpse. Is your greenhouse kit placed in full sun or shade? Because of it's small size, do you have to watch it closely for overheating? - Arlan
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Thanks. It's a bit of a mess as they are jam packed. There's 3 similar kits placed one after the other, but only the 2 newest ones are where I keep the Aloe seedlings that are past the whole seedling heat mat thing. They are about 12 feet from a high hedge to the west, so they get full sun until the sun passes over in the early afternoon. The kits have a "door" that completely opens up on one end, which I keep open during the day (unless it's cold/rainy). They're also equipped with screened "windows" along the sides, but I've found they're not really necessary except during the hottest part of summer when they are all open day and night. The kits are small I guess - 15' X 7' X 7', but I pack a lot of plants in each one utilizing shelves on the sides, and in the back. Each one also has an additional shade cloth covering, and no plants have ever fried inside, so I'd say over-heating has not been a problem.
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What an operation you've got going there!

Thanks for the info on your process. I'm going to keep them going for a while and see if they're just slowing down because of air temperature. Looks like it's going warm up a bunch this week and next, so hopefully that'll get them going a bit.

More questions:
- Why the H202?
- Do you sow year round? Only at specific times of year? I might try to buy some seeds and give it another go later in spring if this crop doesn't produce seedlings.
- Do you sell plants? Where's your ebay page? That's an amazing collection!
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Yes, the warm up just might get them going.

Here's a link about Hydrogen Peroxide and gardening - it has many beneficial uses.
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I do sow year around, but oddly, this is the second year now where I've seen a drop off in germination success around Jan-Feb. I haven't decided yet if it's just a coincidence, or what. If it happens again next year, I'll have to conclude there must be a connection. I believe I can rule out problems with technique, as it goes quite well the rest of the year. I'm thinking something to do with the cold, but not necessarily with the germination part (heat mats), but perhaps the seed production part (seed pod formation in cold weather?). :huh: Usually I'm germinating fresh seeds, so if the cold affected the quality of the seed as the pods were forming - that could make sense. One thing that supports that idea is I did recently germinate 2 year old plicatilis seeds that I knew were good, and those went fast and were no problem at all.

I do sell some plants on Ebay. It's low key, not a full time thing, and often I'll list and sell in spurts. There was more of it of late, partly to alleviate crowding, and it's also how I generate funds to acquire
other plants I may be looking to buy... a bit of a zero-sum thing going on. :lol: Usually, it's Agave offsets that I list, often variegated ones. Now that I have numerous Aloe seedlings that are a couple of years old, there's been some I've been selling on Ebay - particularly Aloe (Kumara) plicatilis seedlings that I have a lot of growing.
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Here's a thought on the temperature track: how thick in total would you say the soil is in your tupperwares? I'm thinking about the plugs in the germination kit I got--they're tall and skinny, almost 2". Heat would barely get up to the top of them from the mat. If it's a thinner soil base with more surface area, it'd warm up much faster.
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I'd say I have 2-3" of soil mix in each container. But, all heat transferred though the container upward through the soil is trapped by the container lid. It's enough to keep condensation forming on the inside bottom of the lid.

Here's a new cross from one to another. Not too much to choose from at the moment, but I like both plants, and apparent success already as pods are forming on each.
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and the opposite
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Also, since flowers are still going on each, I donated pollen from 'Dragon' and castilloniae to today's new arrival - Aloe divaricata
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Here are my seedlings for this year. Quite a few grass Aloes to test my skills ...
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Keep up the good work!!! :U
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I've seen this enough now to know this is how it goes. A hybrid seedling starts out rather nondescript, and each new leaf starts to show features in miniature more and more. I find that by the 4th leaf, I can tell if it's something I'm excited about, or not.
Here's a seedling from my ex DW - SPAIN starting to show leaf surface like what I was hoping for. There's still hope for others, but this one sticks out already. Spine-like structures on the leaf surface :U
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re: post #103 - those Aloe castilloniae seeds have germinated. The other castilloniae pods are fat but still waiting for harvest (post #117 X A. 'Dragon')

post #97 Aloe 'Salt' S x Aloe 'Gator' P seedlings growing

Also in post #97 (3rd photo down with seed parent on right and pollen parent on left) my first 2nd generation seeds germinated; seedlings growing from: Aloe descoingsii S X Aloe 'Salt' P, and then one of those seedlings crossed back to Aloe 'Salt'. So, (A. descoingsii S X Aloe 'Salt) X Aloe 'Salt'. Genetics-wise, I'm now 3/4 'Salt' with interesting recombinations of genetic traits and possibility for improvement with those features I'm most looking for (texture) within this next generation group.
2018 05 18 Aloe descoingsii x Salt S _ X Salt P _ 2nd Gen seedling.jpg
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Something else cool is this plant - after several failed attempts at successful pollination over the course of 2 years is finally producing pods...
Aloe 'Angelo' (aka 'Latte') Variegated
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at least one skinny growing pod right there in the middle
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and pollinated by.... yup... another 'Salt' :lol: Can't say I'm not consistent with what I like! ::wink::
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and pods on it from the reciprocal cross with the 'Angelo' Variegated
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My first milestone with seedlings is the removal from their community tubs to continue life in their own individual pots. For a couple of days, I've had some fun potting up seedlings which were sown last fall. Bigger ones selected to pot individually, and smaller ones left to spend more time under LED and on seedling heat mats.
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And an older seedling, another Aloe descoingsii X Aloe 'Salt' blooming for the first time, and pupping too... potted bigger today too.
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I was hoping eventually I would have an opportunity like this, looks like this is about as close as I could ever hope for. My 3 very favorite Dick Wright hybrids blooming at the same time, also very close together in development as well, with the bonus of one of my hybrids (descoingsii X 'Salt') also blooming at the same time too. Really hoping for a round-robin exchange of pollen between them all, and successful resulting seed pods. Unbelievable!
Now I just need some luck that all goes well.
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An interesting cross that yielded surprising variation among the seedlings is A. 'Sunrise' X A. 'Lavender Star'. A couple of my favorites sport the purple coloration of LS. Here's the biggest of those so far.
(Faded color on those 2 lowest leaves is from sunburn - oops)
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An aging cross I made earlier on: Aloe 'Sunrise' X Aloe parvula. First one to bloom
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Here's a different one illustrating the color change with some direct sun
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An example of same genetics, and variation (whether A. 'Marmalade' X A. 'Dragon', or the opposite A. 'Dragon' X A. 'Marmalade')
all interesting
2018 06 18 Aloe Dragon S X Aloe Marmalade P and Aloe Marmalade S X Aloe Dragon P .jpg
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but still my favorite
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Results hoped for regarding the opportunity presented and depicted in post #123

This was a round robin pollination effort. Pollen went from this to that, and what exactly pollinated what - I don't really care. I'm actually thinking that there will be a mix of seeds from multiple combinations. Any of the possibilities successfully resulting in pods/seeds was all I could have hoped for.
I have seedlings growing from this plant as seed parent, but very much looking forward to these pods here...
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This one is special in that I have had many opportunities to pollinate this hybrid with anything that was in bloom, and this is at long last the very first time I'm getting pods. The bonus is that any of the other pollen donors are going to move my breeding idea in the direction I was hoping for...
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2018 07 03 Aloe ex DW Thai _Paul Hutchison P2 b.jpg
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Again, several batches of seedlings growing from this plant as both seed parent and as pollen parent, but this cross, whichever one it is, is again highly anticipated.
2018 07 03 Aloe ex DW Salt a.jpg
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2018 07 03 Aloe ex DW Salt b.jpg
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The bonus is this is one of my A. descoingsii S X Aloe 'Salt' seedlings which happened to be blooming concurrently. It also benefited from pollen from the other 3. Any or all of the others may be responsible for any of the resulting seeds.
2018 07 03 Aloe descoingsii X Aloe Salt a.jpg
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2018 07 03 Aloe descoingsii X Aloe Salt b.jpg
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