experiences with hardier echeveria’s

[Axel]

I bought this nice Dudleya brittonii.I would greatly appreciate any info on it’s hardiness in various climates.

[Axel]

Escheveria in Mexican habitat picture collection

[Axel]

I bought this large gray metal unnamed echeveria. It could be lilacina but what is the smaller one with the pink colour then.

[edds]

The smaller looks like it could be lilacina (but equally could be a hybrid unless you trust the source) but the larger looks like a hybrid.

Anything bought without a trusted name I would consider as highly likely to be a hybrid - they are all too common and often passed off as species that they are close to.

I am trying to find pure species of purpusorum as all the plants commercially available are hybrids and even the seedlings I have I think are as well.

[Axel]

Thanks, yes the large grey one could be pollux although i noticed many of these are more greenish. This large grey variety seems to cope very well with our winter so far, this one in a garden around here seems to have had no problem with rains and a frostweek.

[Paul S]

Might it be x imbricata? Mine are bluer but the form looks very similar. That is really tough.

[Axel]

I did some searching and i see what you mean regarding the similar leave form to x imbricata. It’s still very greyish at the moment and so the color description seems to fit pollux as well. I have no idea whether this is the same variety as the one depicted in the garden above, but this larger flat leaved variety is certainly interesting.

Outside next to purple pearl:

[Axel]

This was labeled as echeveria. Anyone an idea what type/cultivar/variety? Perhaps dudleya?

[Paul S]

I have one similar that I collected at really high altitude on Pico de Orizaba (3400m!) but with slightly maroon leaf reverse. Frost-free it grows into a magnificent plant, really big - 45cm across. Turned into boiled cabbage outside this winter, despite the encouraging provenance. But in my greenhouse it is magnificent. At first I thought it was sp nova but it might be E. mucronata. Most Google pics are nonsense, it seems.

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[Axel]

That’s beautiful, but has it done well in the past mild winters? and the echeveria agavoides? on the right, is that still there?

[Paul S]

That's in my greenhouse, Axel, which I keep frost free. Lowest in there this winter was 1C.

I tried it when I first grew the seed - I only ended up with 2 plants, planted one outside. I thought it died the first winter but it kind of went down to a resting reduced rosette and grew back. But it was too dry where it was and it just disappeared one summer. I've only got around to propagating this again recently so this year was the first time I tried it properly and, of course, this is the year of the apocalypse

I have 3 agavoides planted out, one has been killed the others have been damaged quite badly. Even some of my elegans - first time in 25 vyears.

[Axel]

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/154023 ... wse_photos

I didnt know this site, what an astonishing number of habitat pictures of mucronata completed by locations in Mexico.

[Paul S]

Wow. They don't all look like the same plant, do they. But I'll add to that by saying the plant in my greenhouse looks 'nothing' like the plant I collected seed from but I know it is the same. Pic here

http://www.oasisdesigns.co.uk/Mexicoweb ... age006.jpg

[Axel]

Yes there are remarkable differences. It seems the site has a system whereby people can ID the plant, so that is a bit more trustworthy than selecting images from google. Some echeverias seem more consistent in habitat, but i still have to dig through all the habitat pics, not that i mind.

[Axel]

The green echeveria does seem to have a strong resemblance to the green dudleya brittonii as well

[Axel]

On a second glance it doesn’t have the flatter leaves of the dudleya. These sideway leaves are more curved upwards like in your picture Paul.

I now read you also grew dudleya green so you are able to make the better comparison.

[Paul S]

Having given it some thought (and finally remembered the name!) I think your plant is Echeveria 'Mexicano' - though what that actually is I don't know. It is a cultivar doing the rounds.

[Axel]

Ah thanks, yes that must be it, because it was sold in a large garden center and as it seems it is produced by at least one Dutch nursery that produces large quantities for the market.

[Axel]

double post

[Axel]

Paul, i noticed this echeveria in a picture from Kew gardens after the freeze that severly damaged their washingtonia’s and CIDP’s. Look unfazed, no idea on the ID though.

[Axel]

Ah, i had a look at the lack of humidity on the rocks, its probably in the covered section.

[Paul S]

Yeah, looks like the alpine house.

[edds]

I'm not sure that is an Echeveria. The leaves almost look like a former Greenovia.

[Paul S]

I think you're right.

One of my greenovia is still OK outside, as compared to almost all of the aeoniums, which are boiled cabbage apart from 'Majestic'

[nsp88]

I bought this nice Dudleya brittonii.I would greatly appreciate any info on it’s hardiness in various climates.

How did it handle cold and rain?