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Those havardiana are iconic. Is it the photo or are they really that green?
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They appear pretty green in the pictures of that area. I’ve seen havardiana on iNaturalist backcrossed with xglomeriflora to the point it looks like a green-brown havardiana.
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Man, I absolutely love that color! Wish that was availableMeangreen94z wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:05 pmThey appear pretty green in the pictures of that area.IMG_9425.jpeg
I’ve seen havardiana on iNaturalist backcrossed with xglomeriflora to the point it looks like a green-brown havardiana.IMG_9428.jpeg
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That is a fantastic picture, has a surreal quality about it. Some gentryi look just like that! Here and old picture, digitised badly from film, from my first trip in '04 near the entrance to the tunnel at Real de Catorce in SLP.
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Those havardiana are stunning, with that amount of exposure to the elements it’s no wonder they’re so cold tolerant.
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I don't ever see shops here just keep them in stock bare root, but I guess these varieties must sell fast enough that this shop isn't concerned about it.
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Saw this on a "succulent growers with cold winters" page. Reminded me of a few here...
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I think the tree has grown more in 17 years than the two Agave.
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Wow, never heard of that one. The ones that grow upwards or on (almost) trunks are pretty interesting.Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:46 pm Agave pelona, credit Roman Sanchez
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I thinked the stacked growth may be an anomaly, or atleast I haven’t noticed it before. They are up there with Agave utahensis in hating wet soil and humidity, which is why they are somewhat uncommon in cultivation. They grow straight of limestone in habitat.nsp88 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:09 pmWow, never heard of that one. The ones that grow upwards or on (almost) trunks are pretty interesting.Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:46 pm Agave pelona, credit Roman Sanchez
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A. pelona will always be tough to find. In addition to being one of the most desirable agaves on the planet (can you imagine the price a variegate might command?), it's one of those agaves that doesn't just rarely offset -- it almost never does. And it is unbelievably slow growing. I have several ten y/o seedlings here -- and one is nearing a size (25 cm) at which I may risk it in ground. All these seedlings look extremely happy/healthy, and it isn't just me or my growing conditions -- I've heard this same song from a number of varied sources.Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:22 pmI thinked the stacked growth may be an anomaly, or atleast I haven’t noticed it before. They are up there with Agave utahensis in hating wet soil and humidity, which is why they are somewhat uncommon in cultivation. They grow straight of limestone in habitat.nsp88 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:09 pmWow, never heard of that one. The ones that grow upwards or on (almost) trunks are pretty interesting.Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:46 pm Agave pelona, credit Roman Sanchez
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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So if you start some seedlings when you’re 12 years old you might get to watch it flower? Sounds a lot like utahensis.Gee.S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:32 pmA. pelona will always be tough to find. In addition to being one of the most desirable agaves on the planet (can you imagine the price a variegate might command?), it's one of those agaves that doesn't just rarely offset -- it almost never does. And it is unbelievably slow growing. I have several ten y/o seedlings here -- and one is nearing a size (25 cm) at which I may risk it in ground. All these seedlings look extremely happy/healthy, and it isn't just me or my growing conditions -- I've heard this same song from a number of varied sources.Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:22 pmI thinked the stacked growth may be an anomaly, or atleast I haven’t noticed it before. They are up there with Agave utahensis in hating wet soil and humidity, which is why they are somewhat uncommon in cultivation. They grow straight of limestone in habitat.
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Much slower than utahensis. From seed to recognizable seedling, I would say utahensis is faster than any other agave I've grown -- seriously. Then it slows some, and in my case, goes into a general malaise if still indoors after a couple years. Dunno why, but I'm sure there's a reason. Maybe some missing bandwidth in LED lighting, perhaps two years of motionless indoor air is about all they can manage, maybe something else. But they need the outdoors to thrive. After several years, my utahensis are mostly good-sized, with utah-utahs in 2-gal containers, if not in ground.Gafoto wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:00 pmSo if you start some seedlings when you’re 12 years old you might get to watch it flower? Sounds a lot like utahensis.Gee.S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:32 pmA. pelona will always be tough to find. In addition to being one of the most desirable agaves on the planet (can you imagine the price a variegate might command?), it's one of those agaves that doesn't just rarely offset -- it almost never does. And it is unbelievably slow growing. I have several ten y/o seedlings here -- and one is nearing a size (25 cm) at which I may risk it in ground. All these seedlings look extremely happy/healthy, and it isn't just me or my growing conditions -- I've heard this same song from a number of varied sources.Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:22 pm
I thinked the stacked growth may be an anomaly, or atleast I haven’t noticed it before. They are up there with Agave utahensis in hating wet soil and humidity, which is why they are somewhat uncommon in cultivation. They grow straight of limestone in habitat.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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They definitely put on a spectacular show when under stress. Limestone is plentiful in my area, I have had thoughts of wedging those and a few other species between elevated limestone rocks.
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Utahensis are a picky plant in pots indoors, I still haven’t figured out how to really make them happy. Some seem to continue growing well indoors, others just languish and do nothing. Getting them in the sweet spot where they have strong roots that get neither overwatered or underwatered is tough. Not sure why utahensis v. utahensis manages to outpace all the others so well, maybe they tolerate (or welcome) water more than the others.Gee.S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:13 pmMuch slower than utahensis. From seed to recognizable seedling, I would say utahensis is faster than any other agave I've grown -- seriously. Then it slows some, and in my case, goes into a general malaise if still indoors after a couple years. Dunno why, but I'm sure there's a reason. Maybe some missing bandwidth in LED lighting, perhaps two years of motionless indoor air is about all they can manage, maybe something else. But they need the outdoors to thrive. After several years, my utahensis are mostly good-sized, with utah-utahs in 2-gal containers, if not in ground.Gafoto wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:00 pmSo if you start some seedlings when you’re 12 years old you might get to watch it flower? Sounds a lot like utahensis.Gee.S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:32 pm
A. pelona will always be tough to find. In addition to being one of the most desirable agaves on the planet (can you imagine the price a variegate might command?), it's one of those agaves that doesn't just rarely offset -- it almost never does. And it is unbelievably slow growing. I have several ten y/o seedlings here -- and one is nearing a size (25 cm) at which I may risk it in ground. All these seedlings look extremely happy/healthy, and it isn't just me or my growing conditions -- I've heard this same song from a number of varied sources.
Pelona are lovely to look at but not hardy here. I’ll let someone else start those from seed. They look like they would handle pot culture alright.
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Utah utah seems far less selective about growing conditions. These grow with both A. mckelveyana and A. parryi at various locales. Other snobby utahensis types wouldn't be caught dead commiserating with other agave species. And of course, utah utah is the only type not bound (or nearly bound) to limestone. So it makes sense it would be easier in cultivation.Gafoto wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:12 pm Utahensis are a picky plant in pots indoors, I still haven’t figured out how to really make them happy. Some seem to continue growing well indoors, others just languish and do nothing. Getting them in the sweet spot where they have strong roots that get neither overwatered or underwatered is tough. Not sure why utahensis v. utahensis manages to outpace all the others so well, maybe they tolerate (or welcome) water more than the others.
Pelona are lovely to look at but not hardy here. I’ll let someone else start those from seed. They look like they would handle pot culture alright.
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What causes this?
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