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Another great shot from Big Bend South Rim
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Those havardiana are iconic. Is it the photo or are they really that green?
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Gafoto wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:44 pm Those havardiana are iconic. Is it the photo or are they really that green?
They appear pretty green in the pictures of that area.
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I’ve seen havardiana on iNaturalist backcrossed with xglomeriflora to the point it looks like a green-brown havardiana.
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Meangreen94z wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:05 pm
Gafoto wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:44 pm Those havardiana are iconic. Is it the photo or are they really that green?
They appear pretty green in the pictures of that area.IMG_9425.jpeg

I’ve seen havardiana on iNaturalist backcrossed with xglomeriflora to the point it looks like a green-brown havardiana.IMG_9428.jpeg
Man, I absolutely love that color! Wish that was available
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That is a fantastic picture, has a surreal quality about it. Some gentryi look just like that! Here and old picture, digitised badly from film, from my first trip in '04 near the entrance to the tunnel at Real de Catorce in SLP.
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Paul S wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:26 am That is a fantastic picture, has a surreal quality about it. Some gentryi look just like that! Here and old picture, digitised badly from film, from my first trip in '04 near the entrance to the tunnel at Real de Catorce in SLP.

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They do look very similar at times. Two of my favorites.
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Those havardiana are stunning, with that amount of exposure to the elements it’s no wonder they’re so cold tolerant.
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nsp88 wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:40 am Two more not as interesting.

Somewhere Big Bend area:
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Pretty sure this is haworthia, but going to sneak it in here because it is so ridiculous lol
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The top one is beautiful. The bottom one is HILARIOUS!
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I don't ever see shops here just keep them in stock bare root, but I guess these varieties must sell fast enough that this shop isn't concerned about it.
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Agave gentryi and montana
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Saw this on a "succulent growers with cold winters" page. Reminded me of a few here...
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Meangreen94z wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:29 am Agave gentryi and montana IMG_9512.jpeg
I wonder if this picture I took in 2007 is of the same 2 plants!?
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Paul S wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:59 am
Meangreen94z wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:29 am Agave gentryi and montana IMG_9512.jpeg
I wonder if this picture I took in 2007 is of the same 2 plants!?

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I think the tree has grown more in 17 years than the two Agave.
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Agave pelona, credit Roman Sanchez
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Meangreen94z wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:46 pm Agave pelona, credit Roman Sanchez
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Wow, never heard of that one. The ones that grow upwards or on (almost) trunks are pretty interesting.
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nsp88 wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:09 pm
Meangreen94z wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:46 pm Agave pelona, credit Roman Sanchez
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Wow, never heard of that one. The ones that grow upwards or on (almost) trunks are pretty interesting.
I thinked the stacked growth may be an anomaly, or atleast I haven’t noticed it before. They are up there with Agave utahensis in hating wet soil and humidity, which is why they are somewhat uncommon in cultivation. They grow straight of limestone in habitat.
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Meangreen94z wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:22 pm
nsp88 wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:09 pm
Meangreen94z wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:46 pm Agave pelona, credit Roman Sanchez
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Wow, never heard of that one. The ones that grow upwards or on (almost) trunks are pretty interesting.
I thinked the stacked growth may be an anomaly, or atleast I haven’t noticed it before. They are up there with Agave utahensis in hating wet soil and humidity, which is why they are somewhat uncommon in cultivation. They grow straight of limestone in habitat.
A. pelona will always be tough to find. In addition to being one of the most desirable agaves on the planet (can you imagine the price a variegate might command?), it's one of those agaves that doesn't just rarely offset -- it almost never does. And it is unbelievably slow growing. I have several ten y/o seedlings here -- and one is nearing a size (25 cm) at which I may risk it in ground. All these seedlings look extremely happy/healthy, and it isn't just me or my growing conditions -- I've heard this same song from a number of varied sources.
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Gee.S wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:32 pm
Meangreen94z wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:22 pm
nsp88 wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:09 pm
Wow, never heard of that one. The ones that grow upwards or on (almost) trunks are pretty interesting.
I thinked the stacked growth may be an anomaly, or atleast I haven’t noticed it before. They are up there with Agave utahensis in hating wet soil and humidity, which is why they are somewhat uncommon in cultivation. They grow straight of limestone in habitat.
A. pelona will always be tough to find. In addition to being one of the most desirable agaves on the planet (can you imagine the price a variegate might command?), it's one of those agaves that doesn't just rarely offset -- it almost never does. And it is unbelievably slow growing. I have several ten y/o seedlings here -- and one is nearing a size (25 cm) at which I may risk it in ground. All these seedlings look extremely happy/healthy, and it isn't just me or my growing conditions -- I've heard this same song from a number of varied sources.
So if you start some seedlings when you’re 12 years old you might get to watch it flower? Sounds a lot like utahensis.
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Gafoto wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:00 pm
Gee.S wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:32 pm
Meangreen94z wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:22 pm

I thinked the stacked growth may be an anomaly, or atleast I haven’t noticed it before. They are up there with Agave utahensis in hating wet soil and humidity, which is why they are somewhat uncommon in cultivation. They grow straight of limestone in habitat.
A. pelona will always be tough to find. In addition to being one of the most desirable agaves on the planet (can you imagine the price a variegate might command?), it's one of those agaves that doesn't just rarely offset -- it almost never does. And it is unbelievably slow growing. I have several ten y/o seedlings here -- and one is nearing a size (25 cm) at which I may risk it in ground. All these seedlings look extremely happy/healthy, and it isn't just me or my growing conditions -- I've heard this same song from a number of varied sources.
So if you start some seedlings when you’re 12 years old you might get to watch it flower? Sounds a lot like utahensis.
Much slower than utahensis. From seed to recognizable seedling, I would say utahensis is faster than any other agave I've grown -- seriously. Then it slows some, and in my case, goes into a general malaise if still indoors after a couple years. Dunno why, but I'm sure there's a reason. Maybe some missing bandwidth in LED lighting, perhaps two years of motionless indoor air is about all they can manage, maybe something else. But they need the outdoors to thrive. After several years, my utahensis are mostly good-sized, with utah-utahs in 2-gal containers, if not in ground.
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They definitely put on a spectacular show when under stress. Limestone is plentiful in my area, I have had thoughts of wedging those and a few other species between elevated limestone rocks.
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Gee.S wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:13 pm
Gafoto wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:00 pm
Gee.S wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:32 pm

A. pelona will always be tough to find. In addition to being one of the most desirable agaves on the planet (can you imagine the price a variegate might command?), it's one of those agaves that doesn't just rarely offset -- it almost never does. And it is unbelievably slow growing. I have several ten y/o seedlings here -- and one is nearing a size (25 cm) at which I may risk it in ground. All these seedlings look extremely happy/healthy, and it isn't just me or my growing conditions -- I've heard this same song from a number of varied sources.
So if you start some seedlings when you’re 12 years old you might get to watch it flower? Sounds a lot like utahensis.
Much slower than utahensis. From seed to recognizable seedling, I would say utahensis is faster than any other agave I've grown -- seriously. Then it slows some, and in my case, goes into a general malaise if still indoors after a couple years. Dunno why, but I'm sure there's a reason. Maybe some missing bandwidth in LED lighting, perhaps two years of motionless indoor air is about all they can manage, maybe something else. But they need the outdoors to thrive. After several years, my utahensis are mostly good-sized, with utah-utahs in 2-gal containers, if not in ground.
Utahensis are a picky plant in pots indoors, I still haven’t figured out how to really make them happy. Some seem to continue growing well indoors, others just languish and do nothing. Getting them in the sweet spot where they have strong roots that get neither overwatered or underwatered is tough. Not sure why utahensis v. utahensis manages to outpace all the others so well, maybe they tolerate (or welcome) water more than the others.

Pelona are lovely to look at but not hardy here. I’ll let someone else start those from seed. They look like they would handle pot culture alright.
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Gafoto wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:12 pm Utahensis are a picky plant in pots indoors, I still haven’t figured out how to really make them happy. Some seem to continue growing well indoors, others just languish and do nothing. Getting them in the sweet spot where they have strong roots that get neither overwatered or underwatered is tough. Not sure why utahensis v. utahensis manages to outpace all the others so well, maybe they tolerate (or welcome) water more than the others.

Pelona are lovely to look at but not hardy here. I’ll let someone else start those from seed. They look like they would handle pot culture alright.
Utah utah seems far less selective about growing conditions. These grow with both A. mckelveyana and A. parryi at various locales. Other snobby utahensis types wouldn't be caught dead commiserating with other agave species. And of course, utah utah is the only type not bound (or nearly bound) to limestone. So it makes sense it would be easier in cultivation.
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A multi-year blooming and multi-stalk blooming Agave mitis:
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What causes this?
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