Ever have a plant become variegated or any other mutation?

[nsp88]

Has anyone ever had a plant that became variegated or produced a variegated offset? Or any other mutations? If so, what plant, what size was it, and was it variegation or some other mutation?

[edds]

I've had seedlings of some Echinopsis cacti and also some Geranium species come through variegated. The Echinopsis have retained it so far, the geranium didn't survive.

I've not had a spontaneous somatic mutation occur in an otherwise non-variegated plant but it does happen.

[meridannight]

No. I have got variegated plants from seed only so far. They're rare but I think that seed variegation happens a lot more often than spontaneous mutations that result in variegated plants.

[Paul S]

I had an Echeveria agavoides for 10+ years that suddenly went cristate for no apparent reason. Over the next few years it ended up looking like a piece of coral which in a dry, frost-free climate would have been nice. Here all those folds and convolutions ended up trapping the wet and it just went rotten. I should have dug it up and stuck it on eBay!

[westfork]

Maybe. I received a pup of an A. gracilipes that started to show subdued mid leaf stripes as it matured. I thought it might have been a lophantha but the seller didn't even have any of those and the pup was cut from an old gracilipes with nothing striped nearby. And probably no striped agave could take his winter temperatures unprotected.

[Gafoto]

Maybe. I received a pup of an A. gracilipes that started to show subdued mid leaf stripes as it matured. I thought it might have been a lophantha but the seller didn't even have any of those and the pup was cut from an old gracilipes with nothing striped nearby. And probably no striped agave could take his winter temperatures unprotected.

Agave gracilipes is Agave lechuguilla x parryi v. neomexicana (sometimes crossed back and forth a bit). Lechuguilla often has a mid-stripe so it’s not terribly shocking to see it passed on.

[westfork]

Maybe. I received a pup of an A. gracilipes that started to show subdued mid leaf stripes as it matured. I thought it might have been a lophantha but the seller didn't even have any of those and the pup was cut from an old gracilipes with nothing striped nearby. And probably no striped agave could take his winter temperatures unprotected.

Agave gracilipes is Agave lechuguilla x parryi v. neomexicana (sometimes crossed back and forth a bit). Lechuguilla often has a mid-stripe so it’s not terribly shocking to see it passed on.

Thanks, I didn't think of that trait in the lechuguilla side of the hybrid. This is a pup from an old unstriped plant and not a seedling. But having that trait buried in the genetics would make such a sport more likely.

[nsp88]

I've had seedlings of some Echinopsis cacti and also some Geranium species come through variegated.

Nice! Variegated echinopsis have some really cool looks sometimes. It seems like seedlings is where variegation comes from most.

[nsp88]

No. I have got variegated plants from seed only so far. They're rare but I think that seed variegation happens a lot more often than spontaneous mutations that result in variegated plants.

Ah, okay. Wasn't too familiar with which happened more

[nsp88]

I had an Echeveria agavoides for 10+ years that suddenly went cristate for no apparent reason. Over the next few years it ended up looking like a piece of coral which in a dry, frost-free climate would have been nice. Here all those folds and convolutions ended up trapping the wet and it just went rotten. I should have dug it up and stuck it on eBay!

Interesting. I have heard some places will expose their plants to radiation to try to promote mutations. I also heard some nurseries talk about leaving plants in greenhouses and then coming back and finding one mutated. So I was just curious how often actually happened. Cool to see it happening without any kind of interference. I have a sinocrassula yunannensis that is just starting to get crested and I heard that having them under grow lights commonly causes it.

[nsp88]

Maybe. I received a pup of an A. gracilipes that started to show subdued mid leaf stripes as it matured. I thought it might have been a lophantha but the seller didn't even have any of those and the pup was cut from an old gracilipes with nothing striped nearby. And probably no striped agave could take his winter temperatures unprotected.

Even though gafoto explained where it came from, that's still pretty interesting that it showed up later in it's life.

[nsp88]

I wonder if this is something stable or just light stress. Probably light stress? It is a larger pup though, so would be cool if something more stable.

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[mcvansoest]

just stress.

[nsp88]

just stress.

Bummer. Still cool while under that light though.
Thanks