A few shots around the garden...

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Don't forget to floss.
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Those leaves look like they were intended to go in some desert creatures mouth, but never come out. Nature has a twisted sense of humor.
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Meangreen94z wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:27 pm Those leaves look like they were intended to go in some desert creatures mouth, but never leave it. Nature has a twisted sense of humor.
Nature may indeed have a twisted sense of humor, but this is actually the handiwork of indigenous Native Americans. Marginals of Agave verdensis are quite unusual, and damned near unforgettable.
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Thar she blows!

Agave horrida
Agave horrida
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Pretty cool! Going to take some flower measurements to confirm that ID? Also, got anything else blooming that the hummingbirds might mix in? I know you aren't much for hybrids, but some other folks might be interested in some seed...
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Hmmmm, never thought to question the ID. This is the same A. horrida clone that's been commonly available at nurseries and BB for many years.

I do have this bad boy tossing a stalk at pretty much the exact same time. Snap is of a good-sized offset. Don't know what it is, but mama is 9' across and looks very Marginatae. Sadly, one in front and the other in back, but I'd guess hummers will do what they're able.

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So far this coming season:

A. 'Dianita'
A. schottii var. treleasei × 2
A. seemanniana
A. horrida
A. 'giantmarginatae'
A. potatorum × 2
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Cool - i had 'Dianita' flowers opening a few weeks ago, then the javelina got to it...chewed the stalk off at the base and just left it on the ground. Filthy vandals. Maybe mama will offset now!
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Oh that's a shame. It's a bulbil producer.
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Yeah, I know...holding out hope though!
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Stalk snaps

Giant Marginatae (This may grow into a record-sized spicate stalk, plant is easily 9' across.)
Giant Marginatae (This may grow into a record-sized spicate stalk, plant is easily 9' across.)
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A. 'Dianita'
A. 'Dianita'
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A. seemanniana
A. seemanniana
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A. potatorum (foreground)
A. potatorum (foreground)
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A. horrida
A. horrida
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A. potatorum (#2)
A. potatorum (#2)
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A. schottii var. treleasei × 2 (foreground)
A. schottii var. treleasei × 2 (foreground)
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Where is the 4 feet of snow?
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Erm..... Minnesota?
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well after tonight presumably in and around Flagstaff.
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This thing gives me the shivers, snap does not do it justice.

A. mckelveyana × A. utahensis
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The pot gives me shivers...
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Just a plastic nursery pot, Mick.
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Agaves bolting and blooming. In addition to those shown, I also had three A. sobria subsp. frailensis bolting, but dug up and tossed the whole clump, then replaced with a seed-grown A. deserti var. simplex. These were stalks 4,5, and 6, and the clump was getting very hard to look at.

A. seemanniana -- rare in cultivation and no offsets. Adios!
A. seemanniana -- rare in cultivation and no offsets. Adios!
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A. verdensis -- domesticates are always quick on the bloom trigger.
A. verdensis -- domesticates are always quick on the bloom trigger.
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A. lophantha. One of my old faves, and probably the only form of lophantha that should be allowed in cultivation -- two offsets in 12 years, one of which is potted up and ready for ground.
A. lophantha. One of my old faves, and probably the only form of lophantha that should be allowed in cultivation -- two offsets in 12 years, one of which is potted up and ready for ground.
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A. schottii var. treleasei × 3. This will make five bloomers in this clump. May be time to dig up the whole clump and start afresh.
A. schottii var. treleasei × 3. This will make five bloomers in this clump. May be time to dig up the whole clump and start afresh.
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A. potatorum. At least that's what I always thought. Dunno why it's blooming so late.
A. potatorum. At least that's what I always thought. Dunno why it's blooming so late.
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A. horrida. No offsets. I'll replace with a 'Huasteca Giant'.
A. horrida. No offsets. I'll replace with a 'Huasteca Giant'.
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My entrant for the world's homliest agave. This is a busy offsetting clump of Agave sobria ssp. roseana, with two mature specimens bolting, one with a few open flowers.

Agave sobria ssp. roseana
Agave sobria ssp. roseana
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Agave sobria ssp. roseana
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Worse than A. schotti? D))

Nice jacaranda (?) in the background...did that survive 2009/2011, or was it planted since then?
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I have seen more attractive schottii without a doubt, tho on average.... But look at those things. You see 'em flopping on the ground and think, 'well, maybe they'll get nice in a few years when they fill out'. Then they bloom.

Jacaranda was relatively unfazed by those terrible winters. It has been here longer than I.
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Gee.S wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 11:46 am
Jacaranda was relatively unfazed by those terrible winters. It has been here longer than I.
that's impressive; I always heard high 20s would kill all the sticks and the new branches would be awkwardly shaped. You're making me reconsider ruling it out...
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I have on many occasions seen agave stalks go into dormancy due to cold, but this summer I have had two go dormant from heat. A. durangensis has since blown over and perished. The other, A. filifera, has been frozen in its tracks for weeks. Bloomed about halfway up, then simply stopped.
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A few samples from the "Back 40". All are in 1-gal containers.

The xylo has an interesting story. Mama bolted, and I found this pup underneath, good news, since mama was spectacular. But then some bad news, looked like the pup was also about to bolt. Back to good news, the bolting thing froze and never completed. Pup sat and did nothing for a year, then started growing. It's a little odd looking and has an axial branch. The whole aborted bolting thing seems to have made an impact -- so far.

A. salmiana? Terrific offset from an agave that presents as a miniature salmiana (whatever that is).
A. salmiana? Terrific offset from an agave that presents as a miniature salmiana (whatever that is).
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A. sobria × A. parrasana from seed.
A. sobria × A. parrasana from seed.
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Lost track of this seed-grown ID, sigh...
Lost track of this seed-grown ID, sigh...
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A. xylonacantha
A. xylonacantha
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Gee.S wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:09 pm A few samples from the "Back 40". All are in 1-gal containers.

The xylo has an interesting story. Mama bolted, and I found this pup underneath, good news, since mama was spectacular. But then some bad news, looked like the pup was also about to bolt. Back to good news, the bolting thing froze and never completed. Pup sat and did nothing for a year, then started growing. It's a little odd looking and has an axial branch. The whole aborted bolting thing seems to have made an impact -- so far.


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A hybrid? Do my eyes deceive me D)) . Sounds like a really good combination. How have your “Big Bend Giant” havardiana developed?
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