A few shots around the garden...

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Hybrids aren't my fault. Parrasana and sobria in my yard were literally crossing stalks and blooming simultaneously. VERY robust seedlings.
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These little guys are all heading for the agave dental hygienist next week. They should be ready for ground in another season or two.

A. salmiana?
A. salmiana?
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A. sobria × A. parrasana
A. sobria × A. parrasana
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A. sobria
A. sobria
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A. xylonacantha
A. xylonacantha
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I thought this was kinduva fun find today. I noticed a Palo Blanco seedling growing out of the middle of a Lavender clump. It won't stand straight, but it's already well over a meter tall. When I originally brought its parent home several years back it was 3.5 m tall with a trunk no thicker than 3 cm, in a 5-gal. So a super slim, tall start is apparently how they roll. I know they're a little tender; if we have a mild winter it could make it, and I would welcome the addition to my landscape.

Palo Blanco
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Just a few of the agaves I have out and about in my front yard.

A. macroacantha
A. macroacantha
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A. 'Blue Glow'
A. 'Blue Glow'
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Seems to be a miniature A. salmiana
Seems to be a miniature A. salmiana
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A. guiengola
A. guiengola
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A. attenuata
A. attenuata
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An especially attractive A. lophantha form
An especially attractive A. lophantha form
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Unknown little agave being spread around by abborean
Unknown little agave being spread around by abborean
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A. victoriae-reginae
A. victoriae-reginae
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A. zebra, one of several I have planted out
A. zebra, one of several I have planted out
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A. 'Celsii Nova', one of several I have planted out
A. 'Celsii Nova', one of several I have planted out
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A. seemanniana subsp. pygmae 'Dragon Toes'
A. seemanniana subsp. pygmae 'Dragon Toes'
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A. chrysantha
A. chrysantha
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A. toumeyana
A. toumeyana
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A. cerulata
A. cerulata
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A. weberi striata
A. weberi striata
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A. 'Sawtooth'
A. 'Sawtooth'
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A. kerchovei
A. kerchovei
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A. wocomahi
A. wocomahi
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A. pelona
A. pelona
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A. guadalajarana
A. guadalajarana
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Nice wocomahi. That’s one I’ve tried several times from
several sources and haven’t had luck. There is apparently a hardier variant that I haven’t been able to locate. MJP had one he grew from Mesa Garden seed survive in his North Carolina garden. I’ve read of someone else who had one make it through single digits in a drier location.
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Was that lophantha the pure species? Or is it the sometimes confused for pure species hybrid with xylonacantha?
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plantguy wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:14 pm Was that lophantha the pure species? Or is it the sometimes confused for pure species hybrid with xylonacantha?
Agave lophantha has many variations, several do not look similar. They should probably be split up but many sold are cultivars that you would never find in the wild. Agave xylonacantha is a different species than above .
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And a few more from in the back...
A. havardiana
A. havardiana
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A. vivipara
A. vivipara
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A. sisalana mediopica aurea, getting very large
A. sisalana mediopica aurea, getting very large
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A. marmorata, also getting very large
A. marmorata, also getting very large
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A. parryi
A. parryi
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A. sobria
A. sobria
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A. colorata
A. colorata
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A. utahensis var. eborispina
A. utahensis var. eborispina
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A. ocahui / A. "Royal Spine'
A. ocahui / A. "Royal Spine'
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A. aurea
A. aurea
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A. utahenesis
A. utahenesis
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A. horrida subsp. perotensis
A. horrida subsp. perotensis
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A. ghiesbreghtii
A. ghiesbreghtii
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A. titanota
A. titanota
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A. isthmensis / A. bracteosa
A. isthmensis / A. bracteosa
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Continued from previous post...

A. 'Mr. Ripple'
A. 'Mr. Ripple'
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A. macroacantha / A. phillipsiana / A. congesta
A. macroacantha / A. phillipsiana / A. congesta
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A. potatorum
A. potatorum
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A. ovatifolia
A. ovatifolia
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A. weberi striata / Yucca rostrata / A. ovatifolia -- For size reference, ovatifolia is 6' across.
A. weberi striata / Yucca rostrata / A. ovatifolia -- For size reference, ovatifolia is 6' across.
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A. capensis / A, weberi striata / A,. tequilana (6' tall)
A. capensis / A, weberi striata / A,. tequilana (6' tall)
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A. shawii subsp. goldmaniana
A. shawii subsp. goldmaniana
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A. garciae-mendozae
A. garciae-mendozae
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A. asperrima subsp. zarcensis
A. asperrima subsp. zarcensis
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Small A. durangensis, just settling in.
Small A. durangensis, just settling in.
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Meangreen94z wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:40 am Nice wocomahi. That’s one I’ve tried several times from
several sources and haven’t had luck. There is apparently a hardier variant that I haven’t been able to locate. MJP had one he grew from Mesa Garden seed survive in his North Carolina garden. I’ve read of someone else who had one make it through single digits in a drier location.
Planted out in a shady spot, as you can tell from its posture. My first wocomahi produced a rare offset before blooming. Unless I get lucky again this will be the end of the line.
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Meangreen94z wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:35 pm
plantguy wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:14 pm Was that lophantha the pure species? Or is it the sometimes confused for pure species hybrid with xylonacantha?
Agave lophantha has many variations, several do not look similar. They should probably be split up but many sold are cultivars that you would never find in the wild. Agave xylonacantha is a different species than above .
Yes, what I mean is that in Agaves, Yuccas, and related plants (the book), a hybrid of lophantha x xylonacantha is mentioned. They said it was originally thought of as the species. I was wondering if this is it. I also think that there are a lot of lophantha that may be (lophantha x xylonacantha) x lophantha... Maybe some backcrossed on lophantha many more times than that
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And finally the Back 40 + a few potted. The Back 40 is now a reliable source of replacement plants for the landscape. Mostly seed grown plus a few offsets.

Mangave 'Bloodspot' × A. isthmensis
Mangave 'Bloodspot' × A. isthmensis
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A. margaritae
A. margaritae
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A. isthmensis
A. isthmensis
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A. parryi
A. parryi
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A. triangularis
A. triangularis
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Back 40
Back 40
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Back 40
Back 40
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Back 40
Back 40
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Back 40
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Back 40
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plantguy wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:38 pm
Meangreen94z wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:35 pm
Was that lophantha the pure species? Or is it the sometimes confused for pure species hybrid with xylonacantha?
Agave lophantha has many variations, several do not look similar. They should probably be split up but many sold are cultivars that you would never find in the wild. Agave xylonacantha is a different species than above .
^Yes.
plantguy wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:14 pmYes, what I mean is that in Agaves, Yuccas, and related plants (the book), a hybrid of lophantha x xylonacantha is mentioned. They said it was originally thought of as the species. I was wondering if this is it. I also think that there are a lot of lophantha that may be (lophantha x xylonacantha) x lophantha... Maybe some backcrossed on lophantha many more times than that
^No.
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Could you please tell me where you got it from then? Also do you have a guess on hardiness? Lastly, that parryi is super nice!
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Are those ovatifolia pups... The small plants under the 6ft one?
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plantguy wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 4:32 pm Are those ovatifolia pups... The small plants under the 6ft one?
No, those pups are from the agave on the other side of the Yucca.
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The weberi striata?
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Also, I know it's been a while since that post, but do you have extra xMangave 'Bloodspot' x isthmensis?
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Sorry, no.
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That's alright... But if you ever have anything that you're trying to get rid of or have for sale could you please pm me? I'm trying to build a collection and unless I somehow stumble upon someone who's getting rid of their own collection I'll be taking any opportunity I can afford. I know you post most of them but sometimes they get buried and I forget to check until it's too late...
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The back 40 looks more like the back 50...plants that is, not acres. :cool:

Great photos and collection, as always! That little one from abborean is interesting, it has some of the look of a mini Salmiana but also kind of like the Aurea in one of your other photos. Oddly enough the one that caught my eye is the Bracteosa cluster. I hadn't seen one in person until my visit to Zilker Botanical Garden in Austin, but one of my favorite bigger agaves is Vilmoriana. I think Bracteosa can handle a wet 25F (maybe?) so I really ought to try it out here in Orlando.
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Merlyn2220 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:54 am I think Bracteosa can handle a wet 25F (maybe?) so I really ought to try it out here i Orlando.
It can handle wet 10F, at least, even when a young/small plant.
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Yeah, Orlando will never test Agave bracteosa. Despite its tropical appearance it comes from Huasteca Canyon. It’s hardy into the negatives. I’ve seen large specimen around Austin that appeared to take minor damage if that from the 2021 freeze.
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Three agaves pulled out from under the shade cloth over the Back 40, in preparation to their introduction to the real world. Not sure if the guy in the middle will tolerate full sun here come summer, but the others will, so long as they're properly acclimated.

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Meangreen94z wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:38 am Yeah, Orlando will never test Agave bracteosa. Despite its tropical appearance it comes from Huasteca Canyon. It’s hardy into the negatives. I’ve seen large specimen around Austin that appeared to take minor damage if that from the 2021 freeze.
Someone planted a couple in a park strip here in SLC. Very curious to see if they survived the 4 degree cold snap, they look a little haggard.
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