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Nice finds, Gee.S, better protect that cactus from the summer sun and be careful with watering. I have tried growing a bunch of similar looking crested cacti and they have a very narrow happy zone, one that I struggled to provide given that all eventually bit the dust (or the rot).

Like the mangave a lot, hope you get lots of offsets/bulbils when it bolts. I am going to be trying a few Mangaves in the ground, planning on planting a few early November.
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Thanks! I doubt I'll manage any better. BTW mcv, this nursery had several E. royleana in 5-gal containers. Some were a few feet tall. Place is in Wickenburg.
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Gee.S, thanks for letting me know, that might be a bit out of my way, but I am definitely interested in those E. royleana, so I may have to find a time to head out there, what was the nursery called?
I stand to loose like 12 vacation days before the end of the year if I do not use them, so any excuse to take a day-off is welcome, this will have to go on the list! Tomorrow, I am heading out to Boyce Thompson and Shady Way Gardens in AJ.
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I've seen E. royleana at Shady Way, too. Not sure of the name, I could provide GPS coordinates (33° 57.622' -112° 42.781'), it's on US 60. I think price for these guys was $40 each, they're pretty good sized.
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Saw E. royleana at Shady Way, but had taken the car so did not have an easy spot to put. Will have to get one the next time by there. There prices are still excellent, but I saw a lot of empty shade houses, almost as if they are slowly winding down. They used to have a couple of shade houses full of cactus seedlings, those were all gone, geraniums in their place. Those probably sell better to the snow bird population, but it has me slightly worried about the place.

BTA must have had a really tough summer saw a lot of extremely distressed plants. Especially Agaves, also noticed that they might have the beginning of a major Agave mite infestation, many A. murpheyi and A. vilmoriniana at the start of the trail were all covered in tell tale lesions with greasy smears around them. Will try to post some pics later.

Picked up a few plants among other things a small S. pinguicula for $8.
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Some more new arrivals at my favorite nursery...as you can see they're big into variegates. I am not, but can still appreciate them. It's fun going and seeing new things coming in, even if I restrain myself and don't buy anything. I'm working on a wishlist from this place, but it mostly always goes back to saving for the biggest couple of Yucca rostrata I can afford.
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Those are nice, though some seem a little tender for your part of the world.
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A few more...
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Gee.S wrote:Those are nice, though some seem a little tender for your part of the world.
I agree completely. The nursery is in an area about half a zone to a full zone warmer than we are, but still. I looked at the Furcreas and told the owner, nope. He buys what he likes though and then babies them and tries to convince others to do the same.
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I'm tempted by the giant Hesperaloe though. They're pretty imposing, and not unfriendly.
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Excellent specimens, all very well grown. Great to see!
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BTW, your Furcrea foetida mediopicta is actually Agave sisalana mediopicta, one of the few Agave variegates I truly admire. They grow fast and get pretty big, just like the non-variegate. And they aren't the same old boring green/yellow scheme that isn't half as attractive as many non-variegates' natural coloration. Probably about 25°F tender tho...

Those big Hesperaloes will wear on you. Not nearly as attractive as parviflora, IMHO. There are lots of both in my stomping grounds.
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Agree on the A. sisalana MP. Again, nice, big, well-grown specimens. Everything is top shelf. :U
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Gee.S wrote:BTW, your Furcrea foetida mediopicta is actually Agave sisalana mediopicta
Thank you! The labeling can be hit or miss, but they will be glad to change them to the correct genus. I think the nursery and the area around it is a solid zone 9b.
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Nice plants!

I am pretty sure that the E. terscheckii is actually a Cardon (pachycereus pringlei).

Another one that would not like to be at or below freezing for very long.
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^ Was thinking the same. E. terscheckii is a more attractive plant.
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terscheckii would actually be OK with some freezing Ts.

I am growing all three behemoths (terscheckii, pringlei, and gigantea)... terscheckii is definitely the fasted grower, followed by the Cardon and then the Saguaro... The latter two deal with the summer a little better though the terscheckii at ~9-10 foot gets through the summers fine now. It looks like it wants to make some flowers, but I will have to see if it actually does.
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mcvansoest wrote:Nice plants!

I am pretty sure that the E. terscheckii is actually a Cardon (pachycereus pringlei).

Another one that would not like to be at or below freezing for very long.
Thank you! Yes, no label on that one and I'm very bad at ID'ing cactus. :oops:
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Today's "succulent nursery" was the large Asian grocery store that I love to visit, and as a nice surprise they had a small assortment of Euphorbia milii hybrids. I was so excited to see different colors, and this one caught my eye.
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I enjoyed seeing all the CA nursery pictures. I hope you don’t mind a picture of a Dutch nursery with some large aloes, barberae on the left and hercules on the right
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And some labeled as marlothii, the flower stalks seem a bit upright to me but i could be wrong
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