Fouq Experience -- Year 1 (Fouqlore)
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Re: Fouq Experience -- Year 1
Definitely not dead. Here it is, 10 days later.Gee.S wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:09 pm One of my Fouqs, F. burragei, has reacted dramatically to the gentle hard freeze (gentle as hard freezes go). Leaves are dry and crispy, and dropping like flies, so its very first leaf drop. I doubt the plant is dead, but don't expect to know how extensive the damage for a while. I do know that if it can't take an occasional night like that, it never had a chance here. I had originally thought F. burragei would prove my most tender Fouq, hailing from the southern tip of Baja.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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Re: Fouq Experience -- Year 1 (Fouqlore)
My latest interesting experience has been with my F. macdougalii. I have had it about 18 months, and it has roughly quadrupled in size. A few weeks ago when things started heating up, mac dropped all its leaves and went dormant, tho it had been actively growing. It had been constantly leafed out since I brought it home. I continued to water it moderately as I always had, but my guess was it just needed a rest. A few days ago I tried to wake it by deep watering with a garden hose as one might a citrus tree, and I now see it is leafing out again.
I know Fouqs drop their leaves routinely, but I also know my Fouqs are small, and won't grow when dormant.
My small columnaris also dropped leaves at this time, but I know that is normal behavior for this winter grower, so I will not force the issue in the same manner.
I know Fouqs drop their leaves routinely, but I also know my Fouqs are small, and won't grow when dormant.
My small columnaris also dropped leaves at this time, but I know that is normal behavior for this winter grower, so I will not force the issue in the same manner.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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Re: Fouq Experience -- Year 1 (Fouqlore)
In my experience, younger plants can be more in tune with the amount of water they receive, so respond to manual waterings. As they get older, they tend to ignore any efforts to "force" them to leaf out, and I let them tell me when they want to go dormant. Almost all of mine are losing their leaves now and will remain mostly so until monsoon moisture (*if* we get any...), at which point they should leaf out (though shrevei doesn't seem to respond at all to monsoons). Then in the early Fall, several go into a second growth spurt before losing leaves again and going dormant for the Winter.
Right now, only F. diguetii and macdougalii have any flowers left, but both have been mostly leafless for the past few weeks. All other species are bare or mostly so. Growth has finally ceased for shrevei & splendens ssp campanulata var albiflora. F. ochoterenae is the only one that seems "stuck"...has scattered leaves for the past couple of months, but hasn't lost them, yet hasn't gotten lush; this species usually has the most significant growth in the Fall. F. columnaris should start showing inflorescences soon.
Right now, only F. diguetii and macdougalii have any flowers left, but both have been mostly leafless for the past few weeks. All other species are bare or mostly so. Growth has finally ceased for shrevei & splendens ssp campanulata var albiflora. F. ochoterenae is the only one that seems "stuck"...has scattered leaves for the past couple of months, but hasn't lost them, yet hasn't gotten lush; this species usually has the most significant growth in the Fall. F. columnaris should start showing inflorescences soon.
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Re: Fouq Experience -- Year 1 (Fouqlore)
My big exception to the rule here is F. formosa, which seems happier the hotter it gets. It had gone dormant for months thru each of its two winters here and doesn't awaken until (and I'm guessing here) substrate reaches a certain temp in late April, early May. Like all my others tho, it is small, and could develop a different demeanor when larger. But for now, a true heat seeker. My only Fouq large enough to bloom at this point is F. diguetti. So, blooming might also direct these guys toward a different routine to some extent. Give me about five years, and I might have half a clue. LOL
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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Re: Fouq Experience -- Year 1 (Fouqlore)
I forgot to mention the species that is right in front of my window that I stare at every day! F. burragei defies all other species and blooms profusely through the hottest part of the summer; flowers start off pinkish in the Spring, are pure white in the heat of mid-summer, and become pinkish again in the fall. Leafs coincide with rains with this species, but not flowers.
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Re: Fouq Experience -- Year 1 (Fouqlore)
F. diguetii, now about 5' tall, enjoying the mild weather.
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A few more of my Fouqs coming along. I've had these for about two years now. They have all grown tremendously. So far, my F. burragei has decided it wants to be a compact shrub, branching furiously at the expense of growing taller, and my F. macdougalii is going for long and lean. I'm guessing these proclivities will change as time marches on.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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I've had two evenings of significant frozen temps so far this winter. The first was worse, going sub-freezing for at least eight hours, bottoming out at 28°F. The only Fouq impacted at all was my F. burragei, which actually weathered the event extremely well. Unlike the hard freeze from the previous season in which it lost all its leaves, this time it only lost a few, and once those fell off, there was no indication that a freeze event had occurred. A few nights ago it hit 29°F and went sub-freezing for perhaps four hours, and this had no impact at all. So I now have a really good feel for exactly how hardy this guy is.
None of my other Fouqs were effected, and with the exception of my deciduous F. formosa, all have remained leafed out thru the season. One point of note, my F. columnaris is without a doubt the happiest plant in my yard all through winter. It LOVES winter, the colder and rainier the better. Hilarious.
None of my other Fouqs were effected, and with the exception of my deciduous F. formosa, all have remained leafed out thru the season. One point of note, my F. columnaris is without a doubt the happiest plant in my yard all through winter. It LOVES winter, the colder and rainier the better. Hilarious.
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Two of my front yard Fouqs hanging in after an absolutely brutal summer.
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F. diguetti also came thru this sh*t-show of a summer unscathed. Now 8' tall. F. macdougalii (behind and to the right) is also fine, but remained leafless through the worst of it, so less growth.
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"American aloe plant," 1797, from Greek Agaue, proper name in mythology (mother of Pentheus), from agauos "noble," perhaps from agasthai "wonder at".
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Re: Fouq Experience -- Year 1 (Fouqlore)
From the healthy look of all of your species, I think the blooming should be spectacular!. Those F. burragei are valuable potential seed producers (which are extremely hard to find). Let us know their progress.
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The only one that's ever bloomed is the diguetti.
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Re: Fouq Experience -- Year 1 (Fouqlore)
My burragei blooms throughout the brutal summers and blooms into the Fall as well...but, it doesn't have a mate, so never any seeds.Tom in Tucson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:31 pm Those F. burragei are valuable potential seed producers (which are extremely hard to find). Let us know their progress.
