The palms of Peckerwood Gardens

Meangreen94z · #1

Thought I would document a few of their spectacular palms

Meangreen94z · #2

More..

Pullarius · #3

Very nice. I didnt think cactuses and palms would be companion plants to each other. Are they a xeriscape species?

Meangreen94z · #4

Yeah, a lot of common palms are from Arid parts of the world and grow side by side with cactus. The Sabal Uresana and Brahea Arrmata in the photos above are from Mexico. The Butia Capitita is from dry grasslands in South America. Phoenix Sylvestris is from Pakistan/Indian. Then you have palms like Bismarckia from Madagascar where a lot of common succulents grow.

Pullarius · #5

Thanks I always pictured them as tropical plants lol

Meangreen94z · #6

A few new

Meangreen94z · #7

From today

Meangreen94z · #8

Here are a few pictures of the freeze damage that were posted on another site. Sabal Uresana mostly untouched after 6*F and look at those Neobuxbaumia Polylopha. From what I’ve heard the only protection they give them is a styrofoam cup on top, atleast in the past. Incredible. The last couple burnt palms were Brahea Bella

Bananaguy · #9

Some of those don’t look good but have seen palms loose everything and a year later push fronds out.. Man the wilt caused by the bug killing the palms is doing a number on the palms in Florida! A large amount of Queen palms were dead in Orlando, fan palms are hit and miss as well. How are the palms doing in your state with the disease as read Texas has same issue.

Stan · #10

You could make a case that Sabal uresana 'silver' is a better looking palm than Bismarckia. One minus to Bismarckia is the trunk is homely...almost ringless,with bumps and things in a dull flat color. Sabal's have that pattern that looks good to last for a few decades.

Meangreen94z · #11

Bananaguy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:40 pm Some of those don’t look good but have seen palms loose everything and a year later push fronds out.. Man the wilt caused by the bug killing the palms is doing a number on the palms in Florida! A large amount of Queen palms were dead in Orlando, fan palms are hit and miss as well. How are the palms doing in your state with the disease as read Texas has same issue.

Yeah Lethal Bronzing has wiped out a lot of the older Phoenix specimen. There’s been a few other species with issues but that’s been the big one in Texas for 30+ years now.

Stan wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:09 am You could make a case that Sabal uresana 'silver' is a better looking palm than Bismarckia. One minus to Bismarckia is the trunk is homely...almost ringless,with bumps and things in a dull flat color. Sabal's have that pattern that looks good to last for a few decades.

Speed is the main advantage for Bismarckia, Sabal Uresana is slow until it hits trunking size. Bismarckia has proven hardier than originally thought, upper teens with a few even coming back from mid teens in rare occasions. But that obviously doesn’t match these “Highland” Sabal Uresana, which appear hardy into the negatives(Fahrenheit)

I agree once either species starts to form a decent trunk, Sabal Uresana seems to retain the more impressive head of fronds. I think if you’re in an extremely mild climate like South Florida or Hawaii, Bismarckia may retain older growth fronds for a longer duration. Here they usually brown earlier.

Stan · #12

Houston is now steady into the 70's and low 80's. That's how you get the Dioons and other cycads to snap back. Here? Low 60's and maybe high 50's next week as storms roll in from Alaska. But we need all the snow we can get. I like water in summer.

Meangreen94z · #13

Stan wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:16 am Houston is now steady into the 70's and low 80's. That's how you get the Dioons and other cycads to snap back. Here? Low 60's and maybe high 50's next week as storms roll in from Alaska. But we need all the snow we can get. I like water in summer.

Yeah, one thing I’ve noticed here in Austin is the lack of torrential rains. The temperatures have been low, so that could change. When it says 100% chance of rain in Houston that means atleast down pour when the front first rolls through

Bananaguy · #14

Definitely sucks and wonder if eventually all palms trees will be gone one day. I did notice some yellowing on my canary palms but wasn’t aware they got infected.

Meangreen94z · #15

I guess I never updated this thread in this section. Pictures from September 2023.

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Meangreen94z · #16

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Meangreen94z · #17

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Meangreen94z · #18

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Meangreen94z · #19

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Meangreen94z · #20

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Meangreen94z · #21

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Fairview · #22

One of these days I'm going to learn to copy everything before I hit the submit button.

Bought 2 linearifolias from Wade I think when Yuccado was in business. Got into a funk, depression, didn't give a flip about anything. Planted them and I don't think I even watered them after sticking them in the ground. I remember them being very tiny.

Last year rediscovered them when I blew out all the oak leaves. With a bit of fertilizer and some extra water during our annual summer drought they put on a lot of growth this year and they are still putting on new growth now.
One formed a sucker and will be a double trunk.

They're linearifolias for sure but different from the 3 I purchased from Big Bend Company. These have a definite blue cast, the foilage isn't as flat and is softer and the ends aren't as pointy. Can brush up against them and my ankles and lower calf doesn't feel like a pin cushion.

Meangreen94z · #23

Fairview wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 2:28 pm One of these days I'm going to learn to copy everything before I hit the submit button.

Bought 2 linearifolias from Wade I think when Yuccado was in business. Got into a funk, depression, didn't give a flip about anything. Planted them and I don't think I even watered them after sticking them in the ground. I remember them being very tiny.

Last year rediscovered them when I blew out all the oak leaves. With a bit of fertilizer and some extra water during our annual summer drought they put on a lot of growth this year and they are still putting on new growth now.
One formed a sucker and will be a double trunk.

They're linearifolias for sure but different from the 3 I purchased from Big Bend Company. These have a definite blue cast, the foilage isn't as flat and is softer and the ends aren't as pointy. Can brush up against them and my ankles and lower calf doesn't feel like a pin cushion.

I noticed the leaves/needles were thinner, softer , and overall length shorter than my linearifolia. The plants overall looked smaller . At first I thought they were possibly Yucca queretaroensis, the young plants they have
of queretaroensis were very similar . From what I understand there are two populations of linearifolia. A green form near Saltillo, and a blue form near Galeana. Looking at pictures it does not appear they are different in size.

Fairview · #24

Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 4:14 pm
Fairview wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 2:28 pm One of these days I'm going to learn to copy everything before I hit the submit button.

Bought 2 linearifolias from Wade I think when Yuccado was in business. Got into a funk, depression, didn't give a flip about anything. Planted them and I don't think I even watered them after sticking them in the ground. I remember them being very tiny.

Last year rediscovered them when I blew out all the oak leaves. With a bit of fertilizer and some extra water during our annual summer drought they put on a lot of growth this year and they are still putting on new growth now.
One formed a sucker and will be a double trunk.

They're linearifolias for sure but different from the 3 I purchased from Big Bend Company. These have a definite blue cast, the foilage isn't as flat and is softer and the ends aren't as pointy. Can brush up against them and my ankles and lower calf doesn't feel like a pin cushion.
I noticed the leaves/needles were thinner, softer , and overall length shorter than my linearifolia. The plants overall looked smaller . At first I thought they were possibly Yucca queretaroensis, the young plants they have
of queretaroensis were very similar . From what I understand there are two populations of linearifolia. A green form near Saltillo, and a blue form near Galeana. Looking at pictures it does not appear they are different in size.

Hard to tell about length since the ones from Yuccado are still so much smaller than the three from Big Bend. Impossible to make an objective length comparison between the two

I have noticed however that the 3 from Big Bend, all which have similar trunk length, one has needles/leaves at least 2x the length of the other 2. It is much prettier than the other 2. My wife even commented on this so I know it's not my uncalibrated eyeballs. Also possible the one had a better growing environment.