It’s (usually) the best time to avoid being harassed by other humans. I often get caught peeping at the plants. They never disappoint.Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:22 pmThat’s my favorite time to go out. Right before the sunrise and have a good hour or so by myself.
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ExactlyGafoto wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:21 pmIt’s (usually) the best time to avoid being harassed by other humans. I often get caught peeping at the plants. They never disappoint.Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:22 pmThat’s my favorite time to go out. Right before the sunrise and have a good hour or so by myself.
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The view out of my bedroom window this morning. Fortunately just a ground frost on the flat roof and not a proper freeze as all my tender plants are still outside!
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Fortunately nothing on the actual ground or plants, just on the flat roof.
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Leucophyllum langmaniae . A different species than the common frutescens. Leaves are an olive green, with crème purple leaves. Its native to the area around Monterrey and Saltillo in Mexico.
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Those are spectacular blooms!Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:07 pm Leucophyllum langmaniae . A different species than the common frutescens. Leaves are an olive green, with crème purple leaves. Its native to the area around Monterrey and Saltillo in Mexico.
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They really are. My ‘Texas Ranger’ sage grew a tiny bit this year and produced a single flower. Pictures like that make me want to try other species and see if I can get my plant actually happy.nsp88 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:30 pmThose are spectacular blooms!Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:07 pm Leucophyllum langmaniae . A different species than the common frutescens. Leaves are an olive green, with crème purple leaves. Its native to the area around Monterrey and Saltillo in Mexico.
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Wow..... these blooms look stunningMeangreen94z wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:07 pm Leucophyllum langmaniae . A different species than the common frutescens. Leaves are an olive green, with crème purple leaves. Its native to the area around Monterrey and Saltillo in Mexico.
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Leucophyllum is popular here to the point the nurseries cycle in various species, cultivars, and hybrids . I’ve started to collect the various species as I find them. I have atleast frutescens, langmainiae , candida, laevigatum, minus and a very white form that appears to be zygophyllum. Which grows down along the border near the Amistad Reservoir and into Mexico.Gafoto wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 5:46 amThey really are. My ‘Texas Ranger’ sage grew a tiny bit this year and produced a single flower. Pictures like that make me want to try other species and see if I can get my plant actually happy.nsp88 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:30 pmThose are spectacular blooms!Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:07 pm Leucophyllum langmaniae . A different species than the common frutescens. Leaves are an olive green, with crème purple leaves. Its native to the area around Monterrey and Saltillo in Mexico.
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It seems like half the Cenizo around here are puny, scraggly, barely hanging on, and rarely bloom. I don't know what the deciding factors are. I have seen people on Facebook groups talk about it takes a couple years before they take off. Not sure if that is always the case or not.
That zygophyllum is one of the coolest looking ones.
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Urginea maritima flowering for the second year in a row...a short-lived flower but a comforting harbinger of cool weather to come! Bismarkia in the background is finally settled and growing nicely too, but it's got a ways to go.
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It seems odd soaking the arid berm right before winter, but the weather demands it. So at dawn this morning I gave the entire berm two to three inches of moisture. Going to be 88 degrees, 35 mph wind gusts, and sunny (too much) today so the plants and surface dried quickly. Evapotranspiration still over .2" per day with the low humidity.
Plants have to be healthy going into winter to survive 20 to 30 below zero (f) and winter is our dry season with frozen soil so no chance of a moisture recharge until spring. We have had no real rain in seven weeks and have discovered plants that cannot take the extreme drainage of our arid berm in a drought (delosperma, and probably sempervivum and manfreda).
The old dog is always around, but then this berm doesn't get hit by critters like the more remote ones.Siouxland: USDA Zone 4b/5a & heat zone 6/7. Extremes at our farm: 108 F to -38 F.
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Here are my seed grown Yucca neomexicana. They have done extremely well. I plan on growing more
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This is a great landscape. 20 to 30*F below zero What arrangements you do to protect these plants in winters?westfork wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:12 am It seems odd soaking the arid berm right before winter, but the weather demands it. So at dawn this morning I gave the entire berm two to three inches of moisture. Going to be 88 degrees, 35 mph wind gusts, and sunny (too much) today so the plants and surface dried quickly. Evapotranspiration still over .2" per day with the low humidity.
Plants have to be healthy going into winter to survive 20 to 30 below zero (f) and winter is our dry season with frozen soil so no chance of a moisture recharge until spring. We have had no real rain in seven weeks and have discovered plants that cannot take the extreme drainage of our arid berm in a drought (delosperma, and probably sempervivum and manfreda).
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The old dog is always around,G3XIMG_4098 soaking the arid berm 9-30-2024.JPG but then this berm doesn't get hit by critters like the more remote ones.
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-The cactus, yucca, & dwarf conifers are on their own.
-Five semi-hardy agave are forked out of the ground and put in a cold dark garage when temperatures start staying in single digits (f) and the gravel is frozen about 8 inches down.
-The other agave were covered three times last winter with rose cones when we received some unusual winter rain. We normally have no rain in the winter, but then it was a warm winter with our low at -22f (-30C) and our lowest daily high at -10f (-23C). There were over 100 plants on this berm last fall and only a few winter killed. But it was a mild winter. Perhaps the biggest survival factor (besides genetics) is the construction of the berm for extreme drainage. Raised and sloped to enhance runoff. Soil mix is 80% river rock and 20% or less topsoil leaving air gaps within the soil profile. NO coarse sand - learned a long time ago that coarse sand and small aggregate holds moisture long enough to freeze solid. This mix allows internal drainage for longer when the ground is frozen four feet deep. However, it does require watering even the arid plants their first year while roots are developing. This works for our growing conditions but probably wouldn't for many others.
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This is a phenomenal effort. I can't even imagine how it would be growing succulents at -30*C. I have seen temperatures as low as -50*C but I wasn't growing plants there, I was hiking / just trying to survive. As I can see, it is a real hardwork maintaining an outdoor succulent garden in zone 4. Great effort that needs good knowledge of doing the things and flawless execution during those critical days when it is too coldwestfork wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:26 am -The cactus, yucca, & dwarf conifers are on their own.
-Five semi-hardy agave are forked out of the ground and put in a cold dark garage when temperatures start staying in single digits (f) and the gravel is frozen about 8 inches down.
-The other agave were covered three times last winter with rose cones when we received some unusual winter rain. We normally have no rain in the winter, but then it was a warm winter with our low at -22f (-30C) and our lowest daily high at -10f (-23C).
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There were over 100 plants on this berm last fall and only a few winter killed. But it was a mild winter. Perhaps the biggest survival factor (besides genetics) is the construction of the berm for extreme drainage. Raised and sloped to enhance runoff. Soil mix is 80% river rock and 20% or less topsoil leaving air gaps within the soil profile. NO coarse sand - learned a long time ago that coarse sand and small aggregate holds moisture long enough to freeze solid. This mix allows internal drainage for longer when the ground is frozen four feet deep. However, it does require watering even the arid plants their first year while roots are developing. This works for our growing conditions but probably wouldn't for many others.
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Where did you even find the regular E. strictiflora? All I can ever find is v nova. Still planning on trailing it outside eventually (once I get offsets as a backup). It was outside all summer in the raised bed but I put it in a portable planter for the winter.
How does it handle wet in the winter? Do you cover them?
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They were a gift from a friend who grew them from collected seed. They will be out this winter, they grow in the Davis and Chisos mountains , so cold won’t be a problem, it will possibly be moisture. Where I’m at is a little drier than Tyler. We will see.nsp88 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:52 pmWhere did you even find the regular E. strictiflora? All I can ever find is v nova. Still planning on trailing it outside eventually (once I get offsets as a backup). It was outside all summer in the raised bed but I put it in a portable planter for the winter.
How does it handle wet in the winter? Do you cover them?
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Looking forward to seeing how they handle your winters!Meangreen94z wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:26 pmThey were a gift from a friend who grew them from collected seed. They will be out this winter, they grow in the Davis and Chisos mountains , so cold won’t be a problem, it will possibly be moisture. Where I’m at is a little drier than Tyler. We will see.nsp88 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:52 pmWhere did you even find the regular E. strictiflora? All I can ever find is v nova. Still planning on trailing it outside eventually (once I get offsets as a backup). It was outside all summer in the raised bed but I put it in a portable planter for the winter.
How does it handle wet in the winter? Do you cover them?
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Have you found any special quirks with that Manfreda maculosa? I am wintering one of the 'Hondo Robusto' forms of these outdoors this year. The most northwestern populations of M. virginica have done well here except we are a bit too dry and sunny for their liking. I read a post where maculosa survived down to a zone 5 with a good microclimate, and the Hondo Robusto looks to be along the northern edge of the maculosa native range.
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Coldhardycactus.com lists it as zone 5/6, they are more honest in their experience than other nurseries. This one was in a container last January when we dropped to 14°F, which definitely didn’t help it. It burned but came back. These love extra water and being planted in ground. It has put on drastic growth this year.westfork wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:51 pmHave you found any special quirks with that Manfreda maculosa? I am wintering one of the 'Hondo Robusto' forms of these outdoors this year. The most northwestern populations of M. virginica have done well here except we are a bit too dry and sunny for their liking. I read a post where maculosa survived down to a zone 5 with a good microclimate, and the Hondo Robusto looks to be along the northern edge of the maculosa native range.
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My Manfreda maculosa just died straight to the ground once it dropped into the teens. Did fine in 11 degrees but that’s obviously not zone 5/6. It came back but only once the soil temp was good and warm in June. I’m considering more manfreda as they might be a good solution for areas that get shady in the winter. Most Agave aren’t fans wet and cold areas that refuse to dry out.